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Texas is now kicking around the idea of getting rid of the whole marriage license thing entirely.
That's what I've been advocating. Just cut it all off at the bud. That'll teach progressives to mess with what was the entirety of human tradition world wide until less than 15 years ago.
That's what I've been advocating. Just cut it all off at the bud. That'll teach progressives to mess with what was the entirety of human tradition world wide until less than 15 years ago.
Because of the Supreme Court decision regarding gay marriage, there have been several county clerks refusing to comply based on their religious beliefs. Could those same county clerks refuse to record divorce decrees based on their religious beliefs?
Not around here, they can't. Nor should they be able to.
The divorce roll is to be filed pursuant to state Domestic Relation Law/statutory filing requirements. If they're recordable (in compliance), they're recorded. No question about it.
Didn't you say baked goods don't and can't have identity? You never run out of claiming yeah but exceptions. When it's the other side, no exceptions! It's either all or none!
If you offer cakes with big bird on them then you have to offer those cakes to anyone, if you do not offer cakes with big bird, you do not have to sell them to anyone. Same goes for Confederate flag cakes, and Swastika cakes, and cakes with a toilet on them, and cakes shaped like a cross, and wedding cakes, and any other design. If you DO offer it you sell it to anyone that wants one, if you don't sell it, you don't have to sell it to anyone.
The divorce roll is to be filed pursuant to state Domestic Relation Law/statutory filing requirements. If they're recordable (in compliance), they're recorded. No question about it.
A marriage license is issued in accordance with the law, as well. And as of the Supreme Court ruling, same-sex marriage is in accordance with the law. Which hasn't prevented some judicial clerks, be they county clerks, circuit clerks, or other, from refusing to issue such licenses in accordance with the law.
That being the case, if clerks can perform their duties at their discretion, and not perform their duties at their discretion due to religious beliefs, why couldn't a clerk refuse to record a divorce? Or issue a business license to a business they feel conflicts with their religious beliefs? What's the line that they can't cross for religious reasons?
Because of the Supreme Court decision regarding gay marriage, there have been several county clerks refusing to comply based on their religious beliefs. Could those same county clerks refuse to record divorce decrees based on their religious beliefs?
It's all fairly stupid when you take these idiots thoughts to their natural conclusion.
Could a county clerk not give out a marriage license to people engaged in premarital sex?
What about refusing to give a marriage license to single parents?
This shows the irrationality of this bigotry masquerading as religious freedom, if taken to its logical conclusion since we all have sinned............ How can these fine God fearing county clerks participate in any our sin by giving anyone marriage licenses?
I mean how do they know you didn't have premarital sex?
How do they know you aren't divorced?
How do they know you didn't cheat on your last partner?
How do they know you aren't a single parent?
All of these things are sins in someone's eyes.
That this is just blatantly anti-homosexual bigotry. Nothing to do with religious freedom. How long do conservatives think before more people start asking the same questions about their expression of religious freedom and why they don't direct it at all the other sinners in sexual behavior?
It hasn't happened before didn't prevent some county clerks from refusing to issue marriage licenses this time. So it isn't a strawman argument. It's an exercise in logic. If a county clerk can cite religious beliefs as an excuse to not do his or her job, then a county clerk can cite religious beliefs as an excuse to not perform their duties. Religious beliefs cover a broad spectrum, from food prohibitions, to same-sex marriage. What makes one religious belief a valid excuse to not do your job, while a different religious belief is deemed invalid?
I've explained all that before and don't want to repeat it all for every progressive.
This gay marriage deal was not done through the legislature. It was done against the people, state and legislature in most cases.
So by your same strawman argument, what's to stop progressive from claiming every belief they have is a valid enforceable belief? Christian have always been a majority group. They've never did any of the scenarios you made up before. The majority decides policy and law through the legislature, or at least it should and did until progressives in and through the judiciary and legislature made a power grab.
Texas is now kicking around the idea of getting rid of the whole marriage license thing entirely.
stick that in your eye 5 lawyers in black robes that think you are godsofgovernment
But they will still be in the marriage business, since those licenses will have to be filed with the state even if you get one from a church or a notary.
A marriage license is issued in accordance with the law, as well. And as of the Supreme Court ruling, same-sex marriage is in accordance with the law. Which hasn't prevented some judicial clerks, be they county clerks, circuit clerks, or other, from refusing to issue such licenses in accordance with the law.
That being the case, if clerks can perform their duties at their discretion, and not perform their duties at their discretion due to religious beliefs, why couldn't a clerk refuse to record a divorce? Or issue a business license to a business they feel conflicts with their religious beliefs? What's the line that they can't cross for religious reasons?
Why are you arguing with me? I answered your question, and the answer (in this venue) is no.
If you offer cakes with big bird on them then you have to offer those cakes to anyone, if you do not offer cakes with big bird, you do not have to sell them to anyone. Same goes for Confederate flag cakes, and Swastika cakes, and cakes with a toilet on them, and cakes shaped like a cross, and wedding cakes, and any other design. If you DO offer it you sell it to anyone that wants one, if you don't sell it, you don't have to sell it to anyone.
I'm not talking about just cakes. Wedding services providers are now compelled to serve and cater a gay wedding but not compelled to serve and cater any other convention that is protected under the 1st amendment. Why do you need to compel people? Why not just do business with all the others who want to?
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