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Old 07-23-2015, 02:34 PM
 
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But the majority (in fact all) of western countries disagree with Israel on this one. ALL of the negotiating parties have a very different view than him. Ask yourself: who do you trust on this? The US, China, Russia, France, Germany and the United Kingdom - all working together and all agreed, or the one outlier - Bibi?

Pretty straight forward..
I don't automatically put trust in anyone especially the ones you named just because they agree on something especially when it is concerning Iran.
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Old 07-23-2015, 02:40 PM
 
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Again - attacking the site rather than addressing the quotes.
I already addressed the quote.

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They're actual quotes from actual people.
I doubt 20 different links would've changed your mind much.
They are quotes from actual unimportant people. No 20 different links that quote the same info from one of the sites doesn't do it. Why would it need to change my mind when I actually know how Israeli feel about it.

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That's usually how opinions work.
Just so you know.
Having an opinion doesn't make it fact nor right

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You don't like my links.
Let's see yours
Your two links have been both liberal sites with agendas

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Yes. 15 people were quoted.
Many more aren't Bibibots.
I know this is shocking to you but most Israeli do in fact back Bibi. Heck even a lot of Americans don't even trust the deal.

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Old 07-23-2015, 02:52 PM
 
Location: CO
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I already addressed the quote. They are quotes from actual unimportant people.
Unimportant to the paranoia narrative.
Hardly unimportant within their careers in Israel.
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No 20 different links that quote the same info from one of the sites doesn't do it. Why would it need to change my mind when I actually know how Israeli feel about it.
I didn't realize you were an omnipotent being.
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Having an opinion doesn't make it fact nor right
Apply this to all of CD
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Your two links have been both liberal sites with agendas
You've provided nothing.
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I know this is shocking to you but most Israeli do in fact back Bibi.
Can't fix stupid.
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Old 07-23-2015, 02:56 PM
 
Location: The Silver State (from the UK)
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I don't automatically put trust in anyone especially the ones you named just because they agree on something especially when it is concerning Iran.

But you said "the majority agrees with Bibi" which is completely false. There aren't any western countries that disagree with this deal, and ALL of the negotiating parties are happy with it. I am not saying that they are all completely right, but I am saying that Bibi is not a credible source on this topic or deal. Maybe listen to the British PM here, who is far more intelligent, articulate and knowledgeable on the Iran deal..

UK Prime Minister David Cameron: Iran Deal 'So Much Better Than The Alternative' - NBC News
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Old 07-23-2015, 03:02 PM
 
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Unimportant to the paranoia narrative.
Hardly unimportant within their careers in Israel.
Paranoia narrative is your opinion. I guess you didn't read the part where those same guys were "former". Heck most are old guys don't even have a career.

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I didn't realize you were an omnipotent being.
A person doesn't have to be "omnipotent being" when Israeli taken in Israel say otherwise. Now you are just being funny.

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Apply this to all of CD
This is quite beyond CD.

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You've provided nothing.
You haven't provided anything but biased sites, one being an outright anti-Israel newspaper.

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Can't fix stupid.
You said it Although all those thousands of Americans protesting yesterday asking Congress to vote down the deal does say something.
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Old 07-23-2015, 03:07 PM
 
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But you said "the majority agrees with Bibi" which is completely false. There aren't any western countries that disagree with this deal, and ALL of the negotiating parties are happy with it. I am not saying that they are all completely right, but I am saying that Bibi is not a credible source on this topic or deal. Maybe listen to the British PM here, who is far more intelligent, articulate and knowledgeable on the Iran deal..

UK Prime Minister David Cameron: Iran Deal 'So Much Better Than The Alternative' - NBC News
When I said the majority agrees with Bibi, I was referring to Israelis. I couldn't careless what certain western countries government say as they will only look out for their own interest. I also don't consider the British PM to be any of those things. I see Bibi just as credible as anyone else.

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Old 07-23-2015, 03:11 PM
 
Location: CO
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Paranoia narrative is your opinion.
Paranoia's been Bibi's business for decades.
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I guess you didn't read the part where those same guys were "former". Heck most are old guys don't even have a career.
This does not keep them from having opinions.
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A person doesn't have to be "omnipotent being" when Israeli taken in Israel say otherwise. Now you are just being funny.
This makes no sense.
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You haven't provided anything but biased sites, one being an outright anti-Israel newspaper.
You've provided nothing.
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You said it Although all those thousands of Americans protesting yesterday asking Congress to vote down the deal does say something.
Yes it does.
Many Americans are pretty dumb.
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Old 07-23-2015, 03:15 PM
 
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Paranoia's been Bibi's business for decades.
If you see someone worry about their country security paranoia then yes he got it bad.
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This does not keep them from having opinions.
No one said it keeps them from having an"unimportant" opinion.
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This makes no sense.
Which part don't you understand? The part where polls were done in Israel and clearly showed that most Israeli back Bibi.
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You've provided nothing.
Because you provided nothing.
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Yes it does. Many Americans are pretty dumb.
Many Americans are smart even when certain people think otherwise.

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Old 07-23-2015, 03:22 PM
 
Location: CO
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Many Americans are smart even when certain people think otherwise.
Keep telling yourself that.
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Old 07-23-2015, 03:24 PM
 
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Keep telling yourself that.
I don't need to tell myself that at all. The people are telling you that.
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