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Old 07-23-2015, 06:04 PM
 
Location: ATX-HOU
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Originally Posted by HappyTexan View Post
Statistics show otherwise.

Poor people have 3x the number of children than those not in poverty.
The 2015 report of kids in poverty shows the trend is not changing.

Poor people have more kids. Sex education in school is not new. Giving away condoms is not new.
PP has been in existence for decades and the poor are still having 3x as many kids.
No it doesn't, those religious folks do quite a bit to legislate their morality on reproduction. Check out the stats of those states in the bible compared to the west or east coast.

Poor people having a higher birth is pretty much the norm throughout history.

 
Old 07-23-2015, 06:05 PM
 
Location: ATX-HOU
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Originally Posted by InformedConsent View Post
FALSE. The statistic is accurate. The demographic receiving public assistance has a birth rate 3 times higher than those who don't receive public assistance. Documented in this post, with links:
https://www.city-data.com/forum/40277525-post281.html
Birth rates aren't static. I've already shredded that misconception apart, let's not stick with that erroneous thinking.
 
Old 07-23-2015, 06:08 PM
 
Location: ATX-HOU
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Originally Posted by bigskydude View Post
And if they couldn't get a job, they would create one for themselves.

We were a nation of entrepreneurs before the Government dole came to town ...
No, we were a nation of mostly farmers before industrialization/technology replaced farmers with machines. Your notion of America is incorrect.

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Look around at our history ... Most of the organizations and big Corp's were founded long before there was a Government feed trough.
What organizations and big corps?

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Families took care of their ailing parents, farms actually produced food, and we thrived ...
Ok....
 
Old 07-23-2015, 06:12 PM
 
Location: Pacific NW
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Originally Posted by Mini-apple-less View Post
I think they want to put them in labor camps or workhouses. Or just shoot them on sight.
Of course you think that, liberals always project their feelings on everyone else. Liberals are the ones constantly trying to FORCE people to do things and looking for violent solutions.

Liberals have such a bizarre and twisted view of the world. Conservative says "I don't want to pay for you" and a liberals hears "you want to kill them, you hate them, you want to force them into labor camps". Is it any wonder people think liberalism is a mental illness?
 
Old 07-23-2015, 06:12 PM
 
Location: ATX-HOU
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How does that change the fact that women who receive public assistance have a birth rate 3 times higher than those who don't?

Also, if the number of women receiving all forms of public assistance is so small, explain this statistic:

Nearly half of all U.S. births are paid for by Medicaid (medical care public assistance program for the poor):
Medicaid Pays For Nearly Half of All Births in the United States | publichealth.gwu.edu
From your article:

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States in the northeastern and northwestern United States have the lowest proportion of births financed by Medicaid. For example, Massachusetts and New Hampshire reported fewer than 30 percent of births funded by Medicaid, and Washington State reported 39 percent.

Southern states tend to have the highest Medicaid coverage: For example, Arkansas, Louisiana, Mississippi, the District of Columbia and Puerto Rico each reported 60 percent or more of all births financed by Medicaid in 2010.
Remind me..... is the NE and NW lean more liberal or conservative? I forget.... is the south conservative?

 
Old 07-23-2015, 06:17 PM
 
Location: ATX-HOU
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Of course you think that, liberals always project their feelings on everyone else. Liberals are the ones constantly trying to FORCE people to do things and looking for violent solutions.

Liberals have such a bizarre and twisted view of the world. Conservative says "I don't want to pay for you" and a liberals hears "you want to kill them, you hate them, you want to force them into labor camps". Is it any wonder people think liberalism is a mental illness?
Oh.... did conservatives not make a deal with the devil to get the religious right base? Them social conservatives certainly don't project anything or anyone else.......
 
Old 07-23-2015, 07:25 PM
 
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FDR said it best:


- Franklin D. Roosevelt
Good quote!
 
Old 07-23-2015, 07:33 PM
 
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Funny assumption on your part...that they had children while receiving said assistance. I mean thats the funny part here. Reality: Having a child is expensive, and can put you on public assistance. You are confusing correlation and causation. This is like saying:
Poor people often receive food stamps!And being shocked by it.

Hey did you know, most states limit public assistance to.....people with children? GASP. OMG!
Good points. I wish we weren't limited in giving out reputations.
 
Old 07-23-2015, 08:17 PM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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What if the causality is reversed and they are on welfare and poor because they have kids rather than the idea that poor people are more irresponsible and promiscuous than the wealthy?
It IS irresponsible to bear kids one cannot afford to support. How do we know that's happening? The article I posted stating that 45% of all U.S. births are paid for by Medicaid, the free health care welfare program for the poor.
 
Old 07-23-2015, 08:20 PM
 
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Birth rates aren't static. I've already shredded that misconception apart, let's not stick with that erroneous thinking.
Erroneous thinking? No. Not at all. How do we know it's not erroneous? The article I posted stating that 45% of all U.S. births are paid for by Medicaid, the free health care welfare program for the poor.
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