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Old 09-01-2015, 08:55 AM
 
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That's what Bush said and it caused a recession.
Wow, you really need to learn about the recession if you believe that.
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Old 09-01-2015, 09:23 AM
 
Location: East Coast of the United States
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Getting big money out of politics is the most important issue of our time. A government by organized money is just as dangerous as government by organized mob.
How is it possible to get big money out of politics?

The public will not know who you are without the backing of big money in a political campaign. Nobody will ever get elected.
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Old 09-01-2015, 01:00 PM
 
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How is it possible to get big money out of politics?
When a politician lies to you, don't excuse the lie, don't vote for them again.

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The public will not know who you are without the backing of big money in a political campaign. Nobody will ever get elected.
Everyone knows Trump. At that, the money isn't the problem, the lies are.
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Old 09-01-2015, 01:03 PM
 
Location: Prepperland
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Wealth Redistribution Is Madness
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Those who advocate wealth redistribution (theft by government) argue that lack of money is the source of poverty. But they’re DEAD WRONG.

If lack of money was the real problem, then why can’t we just credit everyone with 22 billion billion quatloos, more money than they can ever spend, so they never need money again?

Since no one NEEDS money, no one bothers to work, mine, fabricate, transport and produce goods and services. All that money is useless, worthless, and civilization collapses.

Equal wealth is not the solution.

The real cause of poverty is money madness - the belief in the abstraction of money tokens - that has zero congruence with the whole set of goods and services in the marketplace.

Prosperity is based on the production, trade, and enjoyment of surplus usable goods and services. Doing more with less so more can enjoy is preferable to doing less with more so few can enjoy.

People have to wake up from money madness and start being productive because that is what civilization depends on. Produce surplus goods and services, trade it, (or donate it) and don’t be limited by the “Mad Money” system. Take guidance from "primitive" societies that did not suffer from money madness nor poverty, and get busy with producing and creating.
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Old 09-01-2015, 01:46 PM
 
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"Equal wealth is not the solution."

Equal wealth is what those who don't understand this issue often like to suggest is the goal, but of course nothing could be further from the truth.

Anyone who understands the issue of income inequality should know better and hopefully approach this challenge with a bit better understanding, even beginning with the term "wealth redistribution." Yes, of course, any taxes is essentially "wealth redistribution" but what is the alternative from a practical standpoint? I mean really...

As reported by Wikipedia, "A 2003 survey among American economists found that 71.2% of them support redistribution, while 20.4% oppose it, 7.2% had mixed feelings."

I am no economist, but I have seen this issue discussed and reported many times over the course of many years, and always the result is essentially the same as reflected by the statistics reported above. There is no realistic alternative and arguing to the contrary is truly hard to comprehend.

That is nothing but backward thinking born from a true lack of understanding about how the world turns, how economics works, reality.
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Old 09-01-2015, 02:42 PM
 
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Speaking of backward...

"Take guidance from "primitive" societies that did not suffer from money madness nor poverty."

I am not sure how good an idea it is to look to primitive societies to address the issues of modern day advanced societies, but which are these primitive societies and what -- exactly -- are we supposed to learn from them?

How the barter system works?
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