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I believe if history serves me the cleric faction within Iran calls the shots on religious and government
matters. With that understood we appear to be stalmated in any attempt to ward off the expectations of the Mahdi on the horizon to fuel Iran's radical agendas. We are on the take for 150 billion earmarked to pay for " nice behavior" to a group of pagan antisemitic and hopeful destruction of perceived infidel "great Satan"Americans . These are overly simplified nearly laughably no brainer prophecy steps ,but as a political scenario we have to get more information out of Kerry and the Iranian team to be fair. We are out of the loop of exhaustive negotiations. Cruz and Trump are screaming fowl already, but most of we Americans cannot arrive at a conclusive opinion until more " deal" info is made public. C-SPAN 2 can give us ungoing coverage from US Senate ( excellent senators giving perspective)
If only Obama would have supported the 2009 Iranian Green Revolution, Iran could have been on a better path today, free of the tyranny of Islam as enforced on Iranian citizens by the Mullahs.
The only time Obama supported a regime was the Islamists, like the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt.
“I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.” - Obama
If only Obama would have supported the 2009 Iranian Green Revolution, Iran could have been on a better path today, free of the tyranny of Islam as enforced on Iranian citizens by the Mullahs.
The only time Obama supported a regime was the Islamists, like the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt.
“I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.” - Obama
It's not the business of the United States to put their fingers on the scales of government in foreign countries. If Iranians want a change of government, it should happen without our involvement. Obama did exactly what he was supposed to do: NOTHING.
Who rules or runs Iran is the business of Iranians.
It's not the business of the United States to put their fingers on the scales of government in foreign countries. If Iranians want a change of government, it should happen without our involvement. Obama did exactly what he was supposed to do: NOTHING.
Who rules or runs Iran is the business of Iranians.
So true..Anytime a leader is killed or displaced..it always leaves a vacuum ..because there is NO leadership to control things...There's the big difference
Even a COUP or Over-throw..at least there is a semblance of power and control./
Look at Egypt..They got rid of Mubarak..get run out of office( dictatorship) and marshall law...Elections brought in new leader who posed as a Moderate..however had strong ties to "Muslim Brotherhood""..Next thing..Ousted..Now back to Military Rule....At least..They didn't have a power vacuum...even tho..Democracy doesn't exist..
What I never got back when..Why does any Country expect another to behave like US or Canada or UK...Let that country evolve..too slow I know..but it takes many lifetimes/generations to change..Why would Bush or his Administrations expect to change a Culture of thousands of years to change...When I heard G.W> on that SHIP claim "Mission Accomplished"..I realized just how delusional and misguided he was thanks to his partner in arms "Cheney...Proove in point..Look and listen what comes out of CHeney's moth today/yesterday and nothing will ever stop his "War Mongering" nor his willingness to "Shape Shift" history to suit his own version of HIS culpability to what did to influence today's happenings..I swear that guy lived inside of some cave for the last 5-6 years!!
So true..Anytime a leader is killed or displaced..it always leaves a vacuum ..because there is NO leadership to control things...There's the big difference
Even a COUP or Over-throw..at least there is a semblance of power and control./
Look at Egypt..They got rid of Mubarak..get run out of office( dictatorship) and marshall law...Elections brought in new leader who posed as a Moderate..however had strong ties to "Muslim Brotherhood""..Next thing..Ousted..Now back to Military Rule....At least..They didn't have a power vacuum...even tho..Democracy doesn't exist..
What I never got back when..Why does any Country expect another to behave like US or Canada or UK...Let that country evolve..too slow I know..but it takes many lifetimes/generations to change..Why would Bush or his Administrations expect to change a Culture of thousands of years to change...When I heard G.W> on that SHIP claim "Mission Accomplished"..I realized just how delusional and misguided he was thanks to his partner in arms "Cheney...Proove in point..Look and listen what comes out of CHeney's moth today/yesterday and nothing will ever stop his "War Mongering" nor his willingness to "Shape Shift" history to suit his own version of HIS culpability to what did to influence today's happenings..I swear that guy lived inside of some cave for the last 5-6 years!!
To me, the real problem is that any government that comes to power in the Muslim world with U.S. fingerprints on his ascension to power, will be IMMEDIATELY seen as illegitimate by a huge segment of the population.
It's not the business of the United States to put their fingers on the scales of government in foreign countries. If Iranians want a change of government, it should happen without our involvement. Obama did exactly what he was supposed to do: NOTHING.
Who rules or runs Iran is the business of Iranians.
Iran has no business threatening the existence of the United States and Israel. Iran also has no right to committee terrorist acts against Western civilians.
If you understood anything, the Iranian people can't just wake up and change a totalitarian government by chanting Allah and waving flags.
It's not the business of the United States to put their fingers on the scales of government in foreign countries. If Iranians want a change of government, it should happen without our involvement. Obama did exactly what he was supposed to do: NOTHING.
Who rules or runs Iran is the business of Iranians.
A little late for that now isn't it ?
Both in 1953 and 1978 the CIA led the coups in Iran.
The 1953 documents have been declassified and the CIA admitted their role.
If only Obama would have supported the 2009 Iranian Green Revolution, Iran could have been on a better path today, free of the tyranny of Islam as enforced on Iranian citizens by the Mullahs.
The only time Obama supported a regime was the Islamists, like the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt.
“I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.” - Obama
How would Iran be on a better path today, did you want us to get involved in their civil disobedience? What does US support look like that would free them from the clerics, rhetoric, military?
Do you ever grow tired of misquoting Obama with the same dumb nonsense, here is the actual quote from his book once again, show me where it says Muslims.
But go with the Youngcons.com, great fiction and helps you avoid reading a book.
"The Audacity of Hope" [pg. 261]: Of course, not all my conversations in immigrant communities follow this easy pattern. In the wake of 9/11, my meetings with Arab and Pakistani Americans, for example, have a more urgent quality, for the stories of detentions and FBI questioning and hard stares from neighbors have shaken their sense of security and belonging. They have been reminded that the history of immigration in this country has a dark underbelly; they need specific assurances that their citizenship really means something, that America has learned the right lessons from the Japanese internments during World War II, and that I will stand with them should the political winds shift in an uglydirection
I believe if history serves me the cleric faction within Iran calls the shots on religious and government
matters. With that understood we appear to be stalmated in any attempt to ward off the expectations of the Mahdi on the horizon to fuel Iran's radical agendas. We are on the take for 150 billion earmarked to pay for " nice behavior" to a group of pagan antisemitic and hopeful destruction of perceived infidel "great Satan"Americans . These are overly simplified nearly laughably no brainer prophecy steps ,but as a political scenario we have to get more information out of Kerry and the Iranian team to be fair. We are out of the loop of exhaustive negotiations. Cruz and Trump are screaming fowl already, but most of we Americans cannot arrive at a conclusive opinion until more " deal" info is made public. C-SPAN 2 can give us ungoing coverage from US Senate ( excellent senators giving perspective)
Both in 1953 and 1978 the CIA led the coups in Iran.
The 1953 documents have been declassified and the CIA admitted their role.
Yes but it appears we learned from our mistakes and walked the line in 2009, Iran blamed the riots on foreign media. We don't want to give them any excuses.
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