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Old 09-02-2015, 05:12 PM
 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqvghou5m3U

I bet like 70% to 90% of the people screaming this deal sucks have no idea what the deal is in the first place

What is the alternative war war is never the answer
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Old 09-02-2015, 05:23 PM
 
Location: The Silver State (from the UK)
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No they don't, or can they explain what would be better about not having the deal..
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Old 09-02-2015, 06:21 PM
 
Location: Eastern NC
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All they are doing is listening to Fox news pundits or their Conservative radio heroes and repeating what they hear. They have no clue what is actually in the deal.
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Old 09-02-2015, 06:28 PM
 
Location: USA
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All they are doing is listening to Fox news pundits or their Conservative radio heroes and repeating what they hear. They have no clue what is actually in the deal.
Basically.

I also like to remind them how "well" sanctions have worked in changing leadership in places like Iran, North Korea, and Cuba over the decades... yeah, they've done nothing but crush the general population while allowing the tyrants to remain in absolute control. The right-wing loons never have an answer to those facts... well, aside from the eternal answer of "nuke everyone that's not 'mericuh!"
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Old 09-02-2015, 06:32 PM
 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqvghou5m3U

I bet like 70% to 90% of the people screaming this deal sucks have no idea what the deal is in the first place

What is the alternative war war is never the answer
Hell, the person pushing it, kerry, say's it is GREAT and then turns around and admits he has no clue what's in it....
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Old 09-02-2015, 06:37 PM
 
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IMO There is a much bigger picture. The drop in oil, more drilling in Alaska, and the Nuclear deal are to put a hurt on Russia. These kinds of diplomatic moves are like dominoes. When winter comes and oil prices are still down its going to hollow out Russia's economy a little. If Russia backs off Ukraine, oil will go back up.
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Old 09-02-2015, 06:37 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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Nope Fox news has nothing to do with it.

Journalist who have been reporting on the issue for years, the IAEA, Diplomats and Politicians are very skeptic about the deal because there is no adequate system to check and confirm Iranian transgressions. The deal also put Iran on a equal playing field and conceded to Iranian demands, while Iran was the violators of several agreements. The issues that are in question is

A) How can a group of men from another part of the world agree on what is an Iranian transgression without full disclosure and surprise inspections?

B) Without the physical ability to collect empirical evidence to discover Iranian wrong doings, how do we prevent Iran from creating nuclear weapons down the road?

C) Iran has expressed nuclear genocide to another UN Charter member, why are they allowed a free pass to do so?

D) Why are we going to release $150 billion dollars of sanctions to an enemy state who is seeking nuclear weapons and sponsorship of terrorism?
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Old 09-02-2015, 08:48 PM
 
Location: North of Canada, but not the Arctic
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Sounds like Appeasement to me.
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Old 09-02-2015, 09:15 PM
 
Location: OC/LA
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That video actually made me sick to watch. How biased can someone be?
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Old 09-02-2015, 11:09 PM
 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqvghou5m3U

I bet like 70% to 90% of the people screaming this deal sucks have no idea what the deal is in the first place

What is the alternative war war is never the answer
You are actually wrong. those who are supposed to know what's in the this Joint Action Plan
exactly know what it contains.

They just don't like the decrease in militarism. Every issue looks like Nail that needs a hammer.

I don't blame them. with their approach all the war contractors make money like bandits.
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