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Old 09-05-2015, 02:32 PM
 
Location: New York Area
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Migrant crisis: Photo of drowned boy sparks outcry - BBC News

While what is happening in Syria is absolutely horrible, Syria needs to be livable for Syrians. The West cannot continue accepting refugees and immigrants from Muslim lands without strict controls and proper assimilation.
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Exactly and the moralizing "you must take all the refugees in" crowd apparently doesn't think that far.
One thing I really wonder; how many dead three year old Syrians are there in Syria, killed either by ISIS or other warring factions? Or are they all killed by Israel?

 
Old 09-05-2015, 02:37 PM
 
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If these people are truly refugees seeking asylum, then they should accept the safety and security of any offered, not hold out for the most benefits and handouts. Beggars can apparently, be very choosy.
 
Old 09-05-2015, 02:49 PM
 
Location: New York Area
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Again...why aren't these able bodied men going to other Muslim countries...who will accept their brothers?
I don't think that this is exclusively a "Muslim" issue
Why should it be an exclusively Western obligation to care for these throngs of refugees? Most of these people have no interest or ability to fit into Western society.

This is sort of like having a docile little leopard kitten in your house. They're very playful as kittens; never ends well.
 
Old 09-05-2015, 02:52 PM
 
Location: LA, CA/ In This Time and Place
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I think that might be incorrect. Iranians do not have more degrees per capita than Sweden.

School enrollment, tertiary (% gross) | Data | Table
Iranians in Sweden not Iran.
 
Old 09-05-2015, 03:12 PM
 
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If someone hands you a child to watch for just a short time (work with it) , what else can you do? The answer is, nothing.
 
Old 09-05-2015, 03:46 PM
 
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Iranians in Sweden not Iran.
Of course. Iranians who are admitted to Sweden as refugees are placed in a Northern community where they are required to spend two years learning to speak Swedish, and to either attend post-secondary training or work. I doubt think that translates to "more Iranians in Sweden have post-secondary training than Swedes in Sweden".
 
Old 09-05-2015, 05:02 PM
 
Location: LA, CA/ In This Time and Place
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What we have are thousands of people who are refusing to respect the law in Hungary; refusing to register. They have pushed through police lines, again going against the law in Hungary, and are now walking to Austria. Isn't that great that thousands of people who refuse to abide by the law are entering Europe?

"Hundreds of refugees frustrated at being stuck at two train stations in Hungary set off on foot for Austria on Friday, one group forming a line nearly a half-mile long as they streamed out of Budapest, the other breaking out of a train near a migrant reception centre and then running toward the West after overwhelming police."

Refugee crisis: Austria, Germany to grant passage to migrants from Hungary - World - CBC News
They want to go to Germany and Germany allows them to come in. Hungary is BSing and creating an excuse, Victor Orban is a nobody. Trapping those in, it's not like the refugees want to stay in Hungary. Ironically Hungary is making these "unwanted" refugees stay in it's own country.
 
Old 09-05-2015, 05:09 PM
 
Location: LA, CA/ In This Time and Place
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All those Syrian men with their Syrian culture and beliefs are going to be looking for women in Western Europe.
LMAO!! So, who cares? Why does it bother you if they date and sleep with European women ? As log as it is consensual? Do you know how creepy that sounds?

Nothing wrong with Middle Eastern and European women. Syria is part of the Med Sea, just like Greece and Italy.

Oh and many of them have wives and kids.
 
Old 09-05-2015, 05:29 PM
 
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They want to go to Germany and Germany allows them to come in. Hungary is BSing and creating an excuse, Victor Orban is a nobody. Trapping those in, it's not like the refugees want to stay in Hungary. Ironically Hungary is making these "unwanted" refugees stay in it's own country.
Refugees are required to register in the first EU country they enter. In this case, they were in Hungary, and they were required to register. Many refused to register because the Hungarian economy is depressed, and they felt that there would be a higher probability that their refugee status would be denied, or that they would be stuck in Hungary (apparently not good enough in comparison to Syria). They prefer to be in a wealthier country, such as Germany. They violated EU law in Hungary, and then they broke police lines to do whatever they want. Because they then disrupted traffic, Hungary put them on busses and drove them to the Austrian border.

The only people that violated law in Hungary are the thousands of Syrians who don't want to live in Syria, Turkey, or Hungary.
 
Old 09-05-2015, 06:02 PM
 
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When illegals are given refugee status, plenty. Regardless of official status, they have more in common than not. That discussion isn't going to solve the immediate crisis though. We need to help these current refugees take their countries back. It's not right that they are having to flee.
If they are given refugee status then they are not illegal. They have the permission of the American government to be here.
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