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Old 09-04-2015, 04:21 PM
 
Location: BC, Arizona
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The profound lack of humanity demonstrated in this thread is at least as disturbing as the photo.

As a Canadian we should be ashamed of our inaction in supporting the refugees from this Syrian crisis, and even if the situation is far more complicated than opening borders it is atrocious to see posters implying that these refugees somenow chose or deserve this life because of the luck of where they were born.

Why is the life of an American (or Canadian) child worth more than any one of these children?

The irony that the least compassionate views are often spouted by those who spend Sundays sharing their "Christian values" is patently obvious.

 
Old 09-04-2015, 04:23 PM
 
Location: TN/NC
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Gross horrors? Assad runs a one party state with rough edges and a love of graft- common in that part of the world.

Yes, he gassed some Jihaders, but nobody starved, there were no mass beheadings, no cultural lasndmarks destroyed etc. Heck, he even tolerates gays- so long as they did not mistake Damascus for Amsterdam.
Exactly. These people killed their political opposition. Not minimizing it, but it's nowhere near the bloodbath going on now.
 
Old 09-04-2015, 04:24 PM
 
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The oil rich Arab countries (UAE, Saudi, Kuwait, Bahrain, Qatar, Oman) are not taking any of their Muslim brethren.

They are smartly dumping them on Infidel nations, where the Muslim refugees once settled will demand oppressive Sharia Law.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...rias-refugees/
 
Old 09-04-2015, 04:40 PM
 
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The oil rich Arab countries (UAE, Saudi, Kuwait, Bahrain, Qatar, Oman) are not taking any of their Muslim brethren.

They are smartly dumping them on Infidel nations, where the Muslim refugees once settled will demand oppressive Sharia Law.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...rias-refugees/
Here's a link from that same article:
https://twitter.com/AL_Khatteeb/stat...131777/photo/1
Obviously, some of the neighboring Arab nations have taken in their share of Syrian refugees.
 
Old 09-04-2015, 04:46 PM
 
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I love all the hate an Assad, while Saudi's regime is basically never criticized....

Syria a one party brutal regime? So is Saudi Arabia and Saudi Arabia is even worse than Syria ever thought of being. Saudi Arabia is so brutal, there cannot even be a hint of opposition in that country as they are immediately imprisoned. The only regime in the world that is even more brutal is North Korea.

Oh yes, the brutal Saudi tyrant will be in DC soon, so our government can bow down to the tyrant...
 
Old 09-04-2015, 05:00 PM
 
Location: Edmonds, WA
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There are plenty of Muslims living in the United States. Why haven't they demanded this "oppressive Sharia Law" of which you speak?
Yeah exactly. And some of these posters are oblivious to the fact that the US already accepts tens of thousands of Muslim refugees (and has for decades) in addition to the hundreds of thousands of Muslims that immigrate through other means. But even all of them combined form a small percent of immigration to the US. Hard line extremism has zero tolerance in the US and Muslim extremists are rooted out and dealt with accordingly. Most Muslims integrate fine into the US. They're more likely to be your doctor or professor or software engineer, however. Completely different than Europe.
 
Old 09-04-2015, 05:00 PM
 
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Um, those governments are run by people who control oil. The price of oil is set by the market & manipulated by OPEC, the largest members of whom are generally in that region. Quit looking for a reason to blame us for a mess people in that part of the world created.

Did you not read the article I linked to? Those countries often import foreign labor from SE Asia. They could easily send those folks back and have Syrian muslims doing the work. The (unstated in the article, but anyone who has traveled there will tell you) issue is they don't want muslims doing the difficult, manual labor. It's discrimination, plain and simple...
You can not compare people from Syria who speak Arabic to those form Philippine or Pakistan.

The issue is not whether you can send them back. the issue these people will change things in those Corrupt Sheik Domes. They will demand more rights for women. They will demand a more real parliament.

This is exactly the same reason why the corrupt Sheik domes do not take Palestinians either.
 
Old 09-04-2015, 05:19 PM
 
Location: Camberville
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I love all the hate an Assad, while Saudi's regime is basically never criticized....

Syria a one party brutal regime? So is Saudi Arabia and Saudi Arabia is even worse than Syria ever thought of being. Saudi Arabia is so brutal, there cannot even be a hint of opposition in that country as they are immediately imprisoned. The only regime in the world that is even more brutal is North Korea.

Oh yes, the brutal Saudi tyrant will be in DC soon, so our government can bow down to the tyrant...
Oh absolutely. We kow tow to Saudi Arabia because of the oil. Without it, leaders regardless of the party would be shouting from the rooftops about sanctions and condemning the leaders. It's so morally repugnant.

I think what bothers me most about Assad is he had so much POTENTIAL. He is educated. He married an educated, professional, liberal, Western wife (British-Syrian and a former investment banker he met while studying to be a ophthalmologist in London) who easily could have been the next Queen Rania. Syria could have become what Jordan is becoming with democratic, moderate reforms coming from leadership. It didn't. Instead, when his people demanded reform, he murdered thousands of civilians - many from the educated middle class.

Iran and Syria are two countries that could have been modern nations, but were destroyed by horrible leadership from the mid 20th century onwards. There is hope for Iran again - the infrastructure and education is there if the people could come together to oust the ayatollahs. But hope for Syria? All but lost - the infrastructure is destroyed and almost a quarter of their population are refugees either displaced within Syria or have fled elsewhere. And their struggles have sunk Lebanon (who was occupied by Syria for decades and now 1 in 5 residents are Syrian refugees) and Jordan from a lot of potential growth. Will this destabilize them as well? I don't want to think about it.
 
Old 09-04-2015, 05:22 PM
 
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The profound lack of humanity demonstrated in this thread is at least as disturbing as the photo.

As a Canadian we should be ashamed of our inaction in supporting the refugees from this Syrian crisis, and even if the situation is far more complicated than opening borders it is atrocious to see posters implying that these refugees somenow chose or deserve this life because of the luck of where they were born.

Why is the life of an American (or Canadian) child worth more than any one of these children?

The irony that the least compassionate views are often spouted by those who spend Sundays sharing their "Christian values" is patently obvious.
This has nothing to do with Canada. That was false information that was distributed by someone for an unknown reason. This accident is a result of people getting into a raft in choppy water and drowning on the other side of the world.

"Citizenship and Immigration Canada says it received no refugee application from the father of two drowned Syrian boys who have put a devastating human face to the Syrian refugee crisis.

It did, however, receive an application for Abdullah Kurdi’s brother, Mohammed, but said it was incomplete and did not meet regulatory requirements for proof of refugee status recognition."

Government says it never got refugee application from family of drowned Syrian boys | Ottawa Citizen
 
Old 09-04-2015, 05:23 PM
 
Location: Minnesota
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Yeah exactly. And some of these posters are oblivious to the fact that the US already accepts tens of thousands of Muslim refugees (and has for decades) in addition to the hundreds of thousands of Muslims that immigrate through other means. But even all of them combined form a small percent of immigration to the US. Hard line extremism has zero tolerance in the US and Muslim extremists are rooted out and dealt with accordingly. Most Muslims integrate fine into the US. They're more likely to be your doctor or professor or software engineer, however. Completely different than Europe.
A good number of my neighbors are Muslims …

My Representative in Congress (Keith Ellison) is a Muslims …

A Tibetan Buddhist family lives across the street …
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