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Then why haven't workers been paid according to their productivity? That stopped in the 70s. Wages have been flat while productivity rises year after year. It's not about skills only.
Because we have a society that wants to "bring back jobs" (ones that will never come back) or "blame the brown people for stealing jobs" (jobs that do not pay enough) instead of learning new skills that pay like the "jobs they want back" (that actually pay less now) and more than the "jobs the browns are stealing". Why do you think Trump is resonating? Liberals blame the minimum wage.
No one is going to hire a person for $15/hr to do a job that requires few skills and is only worth (to the employer) $5.50/hr (for example). That work will be redistributed to other departments/employees, increasing their work load. I have seen it happen.
The government cannot make such decree's and just expect business to roll over. Isn't going to happen.
Pay scales are set by the Market. That is as it should be.
Anyone who can't 'make it' on what they are now earning simply needs to learn new skills. It isn't as easy as it once was — largely because of government interference in the free market. Don't like it? Vote Republican!
Like I have said before there is nothing that show what a jobs worth is. Employers make up what they think the worth is that is why you can have two people doing the same thing at two different companies and one pays better. Right because getting new skills is just gonna make a job appear and if everyone does this there will enough jobs for everyone. People who say this have no idea how the economy works.
Productivity rose via automation; not individual skill. Perhaps the Robot should get a raise!
So where are all these robots right now that are raising productivity? Maybe in factories this is happening but not in jobs in fast food and retail and other jobs.
raising the minimum wage from 7.xx to 15.xx would be a huge jump and I do think it is going to negatively affect businesses and profits however I think part of that is that we finally are discussing this after years upon years of not addressing it. It does need to be raised to some degree...i hope most people can't argue that. Perhaps this is something that should be reviewed after 2-3 years. A 50 cent raise every 3 years for the last 15 years would put everyone around $10 and perhaps we wouldn't be having this debate right now.
So where are all these robots right now that are raising productivity? Maybe in factories this is happening but not in jobs in fast food and retail and other jobs.
Uhmm....actually have you seen that drinks are now auto poured for you at the drive through?
Are you aware that automated burger machines are coming?
Heck, have you seen the new kitchen robot thats coming out next year?
Retail? You mean the one thats been slowly taken over by Amazon, that is now using robots in their warehouses?
I could go on. Both with current automation, and upcoming automation.
Part of it is that, part of it is do those places have jobs. The Dakotas do have the oil fields but how long will that boom the way it has been doing?
The best thing about low level service work is that you can find it just about anywhere. You're better off working those jobs in a lower COL area. Save the high COL area when you get the education in a field that pays the kind of money you need to live there.
Most people who work minimum wage are in school, or have a second job besides that. Not many minimum wage jobs offer full time hours.
Most people who work minimum wage are in school, or have a second job besides that..
Half of all minimum wage workers are over 30-the average age is 35. I dont think you comprehend what minimum wage is today, and who is working it. Half worked more then 35 hours a week at it for example.
There is zero evidence a minimum wage hike has any positive effect on economic activity.
The problem with this is that too many people here won't click the link and read this. Of those that do, only a small percentage have the reading comprehension to understand it.
I find these threads frustrating . Over and over again people quote what someone says and then comment on it as if it says something totally different.
This link really explains something well, but it doesn't matter on city data.
So where are all these robots right now that are raising productivity? Maybe in factories this is happening but not in jobs in fast food and retail and other jobs.
Self serve checkouts do exactly what robots do..rote tasks and they do it every minute they are in use..no paid time off, no demand to double their wage, etc. Tablets have enabled casual dining to cut staff..same concept..self order reduces labor requirements.
The problem with this is that too many people here won't click the link and read this. Of those that do, only a small percentage have the reading comprehension to understand it.
I find these threads frustrating . Over and over again people quote what someone says and then comment on it as if it says something totally different.
This link really explains something well, but it doesn't matter on city data.
Actually, I did click on that link and I did read it from beginning to end. Very interesting read, me thinks.
Here is why I think it is relevant that every once in a while we all should take a step back from our ideological arguments and try to get to know the people and circumstances on a personal level. Things don't need to make perfect logical sense. There is the human factor that we need to consider.
Making an argument based purely on ideology without considering the human factor can be quite dangerous. After all, Hitler did vastly improve Germany's economy and brought the Fatherland to glory based on National Socialism. A little extreme of an example, yes, but I think it demonstrates perfectly what happens when some people decided to base their belief system purely on ideology without factoring in the human factor.
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