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Old 09-11-2015, 01:02 PM
 
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Let me guess - your alternative is to bomb or invade Iran and as a result create more ISIS-fighters.
You lose the argument when you start putting words in my mouth.
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Old 09-11-2015, 01:03 PM
 
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I'm not a liberal or a Democrat but if/when Iran develops nuclear weapons I'll sleep well knowing that we have thousands of them.

[shrug]
Skirting the point.......why even post?
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Old 09-11-2015, 01:04 PM
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If the deal fails and Iran develops a nuclear weapon will you blame Republicans?
Nobody will be blamed. There won't be anybody to blame. It will be millions of years before Earth will have sentient life again. But just be patient. It seems like a long time, but, in the great scheme of things, it's actually not that big a deal.
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Old 09-11-2015, 01:05 PM
 
Location: Jawjah
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You lose the argument when you start putting words in my mouth.
Tell me - what is the conservative alternative?
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Old 09-11-2015, 01:05 PM
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Location: Pine Grove,AL
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For your premise to work, you'd have to show us how the "deal" will actually prohibit Iran from developing a nuclear weapon.

Checkmate.
If they actually follow the deal then it does stop them from making a nuclear weapon because they would get rid of their plutonium and cap enriched uranium far below the levels to make a single bomb.

Your entire argument is based on Iran breaking the agreement.
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Old 09-11-2015, 01:11 PM
 
Location: Stasis
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For your premise to work, you'd have to show us how the "deal" will actually prohibit Iran from developing a nuclear weapon.

Checkmate.
The deal noticeably slows Iran's progress to making a bomb.
- they agree to reduce their number of centrifuges by 2/3rds
- reduce their stockpile of uranium by 98%
- will keep its level of uranium enrichment at 3.67% - significantly below the enrichment level needed to create a bomb.
- the Arak reactor will be redesigned so it cannot produce any weapons-grade plutonium
- allow IAEA inspections
- no self inspections - http://www.juancole.com/2015/08/insp...acilities.html

Without a deal Iran can fast-track a bomb.
So, again, ff the deal fails and Iran develops a nuclear weapon will you blame Republicans?
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Old 09-11-2015, 01:11 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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Skirting the point.......why even post?
Because there are nuclear weapons targeted at us now and we have nuclear weapons targeted at others and I'm not afraid.

[we've been living with nukes for decades]
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Old 09-11-2015, 01:14 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Old 09-11-2015, 01:16 PM
 
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Let me guess - your alternative is to bomb or invade Iran and as a result create more ISIS-fighters.
Ah, the unimaginative liberal response, written for you by Obama. He has told you that there is no other way and you swallowed it whole. The same unimaginative libs held the same view when it came to the USSR.
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Old 09-11-2015, 01:21 PM
 
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Because there are nuclear weapons targeted at us now and we have nuclear weapons targeted at others and I'm not afraid.

[we've been living with nukes for decades]
Iran is an Islamic state, religious freaking nuts, even the Chinese govrnment are rational people. Open your freaking eyes, geez
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