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Old 09-13-2015, 08:00 AM
 
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This rhetorical question is a symbol of the basic misunderstanding among Democrats.

The idea of voting based upon "what the government has done for you" has become a Democratic Party mindset, is spite of being warned against it by John Kennedy.
If they were alive today Nixon would be a Democrat and JFK would be a Republican.

Kind of funny huh?
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Old 09-13-2015, 09:02 AM
 
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LOL @ OP

Todays GOP is constantly demonizing minorities and pushing down a radical evangelical Christian agenda down our throats with no regards to separation of church and state.
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Old 09-13-2015, 10:12 AM
 
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You live in NC and are watching the Con. Republican legislature kill the state and you do not see today's political reality.

What happened 100 years ago is history which must be used to not repeat again. Today's GOP has gone too far to the right, where the Dem's of 100 years ago were.

Wake up to today's world.
LOL! Wake Up? I'm not the one sleeping.

People are packing their bags and moving to NC in droves as fast as they can because it's such a desirable place to live. That is the 'reality'. NC is hardly in death throes. If you are looking for that, then go look at the states where these people are coming from. All of them are dying due to "progressive" thinking.

These results speak for themselves in regards to how the state is being governed.
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Old 09-13-2015, 10:18 AM
 
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If they were alive today Nixon would be a Democrat and JFK would be a Republican.

Kind of funny huh?
Indeed. They didn't call him Tricky Dick for nothing. Richard Nixon had a Gay lover.
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Old 09-13-2015, 10:30 AM
 
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LOL @ OP

Todays GOP is constantly demonizing minorities and pushing down a radical evangelical Christian agenda down our throats with no regards to separation of church and state.
Not true.
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Old 09-13-2015, 11:09 AM
 
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Agreed, the hoodrats don't like the ideology like work, less entitlements, personal responsibility etc etc..
Obviously you're the expert on hoodrats based on personal experience, so i'll defer to you. Hope you've changed your life.
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You're not answering the question. One doesn't answer a question with a question. But no, it doesn't necessarily take larger government to encourage more job creation and prosperity.
Anyway, I'll take that as you have no answer.
If you're gonna postulate that the Democrats have done nothing for blacks, then you're saying that people should vote for government that does something for them. You can't then turn around and say that you're for small government because you're admitting that you vote based on what your candidate will do for you.

So now...what has your political party done for you? Tell me.
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Originally Posted by Listener2307 View Post
This rhetorical question is a symbol of the basic misunderstanding among Democrats.

The idea of voting based upon "what the government has done for you" has become a Democratic Party mindset, is spite of being warned against it by John Kennedy.
You don't get it.

If people are going to say that the Democrats have done nothing for blacks, then what you're saying is that blacks should expect the government to do something for them. Which is basically admitting that YOU vote based on what your party will do for you. So you can't then say that you're for small government.

So no, you're the one with the basic misunderstanding....not me.
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Old 09-13-2015, 11:13 AM
 
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LOL! Wake Up? I'm not the one sleeping.

People are packing their bags and moving to NC in droves as fast as they can because it's such a desirable place to live. That is the 'reality'. NC is hardly in death throes. If you are looking for that, then go look at the states where these people are coming from. All of them are dying due to "progressive" thinking.

These results speak for themselves in regards to how the state is being governed.
NC? LMAO...you've gotta be kidding. Wouldn't be caught dead.
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LOL @ OP

Todays GOP is constantly demonizing minorities and pushing down a radical evangelical Christian agenda down our throats with no regards to separation of church and state.
Yep. Absolutely true.
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If they were alive today Nixon would be a Democrat and JFK would be a Republican.

Kind of funny huh?
What Nixon would be is debatable, but there exists zero evidence that JFK would be a Republican. Nothing.
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Old 09-13-2015, 01:20 PM
 
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LOL @ OP

Todays GOP is constantly demonizing minorities and pushing down a radical evangelical Christian agenda down our throats with no regards to separation of church and state.
So who is doing all of this demonizing of minorities, exactly?
And what makes you think that black voters don't like a Christian agenda? White liberals are the ones who have a problem with that. But most of these white liberals will also defend Islam tooth and nail, if you speak a word against it. Which makes perfect sense.
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Old 09-13-2015, 01:32 PM
 
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NC? LMAO...you've gotta be kidding. Wouldn't be caught dead.
Nope I not kidding. And that's fine. Stay whereever it is you are now. Too many people moving here as it is.
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Old 09-13-2015, 02:40 PM
 
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What Nixon would be is debatable, but there exists zero evidence that JFK would be a Republican. Nothing.
Kennedy was way more conservative than many seem to realize (or remember).


A) Cut taxes (he did not live to see his tax plan enacted though). Long-term capital gains rate cut to 19.5% from 25), cut the top individual income tax rate to 70% from 91%, cut the bottom rate from 20% to 14%, and a reduction in the corporate tax rate from 52% to 47%.

B) Free trade advocate; killed many tariffs by getting trade negotiation authority from Congress in 1962.

C) Appointed Byron White to the Supreme Court.

D) Related to "E" above, Kennedy was very anti-abortion.

E) Loathed Communists

F) A fiscal conservative. His budgets had lower deficits than Eisenhower, yet he....

G) Supported big military spending

H) anti-union

I) Attempted welfare reform

J) His speeches often had strong conservative undertones (personal accountability, faith in God, etc.)

K) Defended oil+gas subsidies

L) His friends and staff described him a such:

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A campaign staffer and congressional aide, William Sutton, described Kennedy’s political stance in the 1946 campaign as “almost ultraconservative.” “He was more conservative than anything else,” said a Navy friend of Kennedy’s, James Reed, who went on to serve as assistant Treasury secretary in the Kennedy administration. Kennedy’s speechwriter and longtime aide, Ted Sorensen, said, “Kennedy was a fiscal conservative. Most of us and the press and historians have, for one reason or another, treated Kennedy as being much more liberal than he so regarded himself at the time… in fiscal matters, he was extremely conservative, very cautious about the size of the budget.”
This is not a man who would want a thing to do with the modern tax and spend, pro-union, atheistic, abortion on demand Democrat party. No way.
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