97% of Obamacare's "newly insured" are from Medicaid expansion. (illegal, illegals)

[MissTerri]

Originally Posted by stevek64

I wonder if the "Obamacare Medicaid" flavor is different in any way than straight Medicaid? I think I read something once that stated those states that expanded Medicaid under Obamacare, those people have basically a health insurance plan with a primary Doctor, choice of Dr's, etc. I suppose someone could still run to the emergency room for everything but why would they if I'm understanding this correctly?

Medicaid is the same pre and post obamacare, there's just 9 million more people on it now vs before. Doctors who accept Medicaid are still not easy to find.

[dv1033]

Originally Posted by MissTerri

Actually, Medicad expansion greatly increases ER use for primary care. We will be paying more now then ever before for ER visits.
Report: Uninsured Emergency Room Use Greatly Exaggerated | Heartlander Magazine

LOL. You missed the point...And who pays for Medicaid?

Here's my actual response to you, specifically:

Originally Posted by dv1033

Again.... we pay either way. However, it's much cheaper with more preventative care, i.e. it's cheaper to see a doctor once a year and be able to afford medication instead of having open heart surgery.....

This country has been doing the latter....

[dv1033]

Originally Posted by Mircea

It's a fallacy to suggest that an alternative must be offered.

If you want universal healthcare, then you need to be addressing it at the State level.

As I recall, Bernie Sanders' Vermont tried and failed.

Mitt Romney offered and implemented an alternative in his state.... I wonder why Republicans haven't adopted a Romney style approach.....

[Ed from California]

Originally Posted by Ih2puo

Republicans would love to see those 8 million people with no insurance dying in the streets.

That's right, we sure would.

Jesus but you people are obtuse.

[dv1033]

Originally Posted by Ih2puo

In 2013, $53.3 billion was paid to help providers offset uncompensated care costs. Most of these funds ($32.8 billion) came from the federal government through a variety of programs including Medicaid and Medicare, the Veterans Health Administration, and other programs. States and localities provided $19.8 billion, and the private sector provided $0.7 billion.

Seems like it was working before Obamacare and still have to with it.

Why mess up 300 million insured Americans for 30 million uninsured?

I guess that is a matter of opinion. It's not like healthcare reform is a recent issue....

Hey if you think the system pre-ACA was efficient and productive, then you're entitled to that opinion.

[FlightAttendant]

I am kind of shell shocked right now. For 2016, my company has gone from really superb health insurance at an affordable cost to us, to hideously more expensive insurance with significantly less coverage and enormous out of pocket expenses. My insurance costs are going up four fold and copays going up by about 200% for inferior coverage. Out of pocket expenses have more than tripled, and prescription prices are priced extremely higher.

Thanks for nothing, Obamacare. We are furious.

[HappyTexan]

Originally Posted by dv1033

Mitt Romney offered and implemented an alternative in his state.... I wonder why Republicans haven't adopted a Romney style approach.....

What ? They why didn't you vote Mitt into office ? Why did you Dems turn your back on Mitt who had a plan ?

[brentwoodgirl]

Originally Posted by stevek64

I wonder if the "Obamacare Medicaid" flavor is different in any way than straight Medicaid? I think I read something once that stated those states that expanded Medicaid under Obamacare, those people have basically a health insurance plan with a primary Doctor, choice of Dr's, etc. I suppose someone could still run to the emergency room for everything but why would they if I'm understanding this correctly?

Because going to the doctor means calling and scheduling a visit and/or waiting for the office to open. But going to the ER gets you seen now. When it's all "free" for the patient, people don't worry about cost. Medicaid patients use the ER more than any other group, insured or uninsured. This data was available when Obama was pushing Obamacare, but he continuously lied about it. Looks like you fell for his lies.

[brentwoodgirl]

Originally Posted by FlightAttendant

I am kind of shell shocked right now. For 2016, my company has gone from really superb health insurance at an affordable cost to us, to hideously more expensive insurance with significantly less coverage and enormous out of pocket expenses. My insurance costs are going up four fold and copays going up by about 200% for inferior coverage. Out of pocket expenses have more than tripled, and prescription prices are priced extremely higher.

Thanks for nothing, Obamacare. We are furious.

Everyone who voted for him in 2012 is getting their just desserts. There was plenty of info about what was coming. Anyone who voted for him deserves to feel the pain of their decision. Sadly the rest of us as getting dragged along for the pain.

[pghquest]

Originally Posted by dv1033

Yes or no. Have Republicans done everything in their power to successfully roll out this policy?

hahaha.. The only thing left NOT rolled out is MORE MEDICAID..