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In the movie trailer one guy says, "We aren't even suppose to be here" so is that why they were told to "stand down"? Makes one wonder.
Ha ha ha ha ha.
Another conservative who thinks Hollywood movies are documentary.
Why yes, indeed. There is an invisible inked coded message in the Declaration of Independence pointing to a treasure under the Trinity Church. That is all real. Don't let anyone tells you otherwise.
Not all the people who were there in Benghazi during the attack agree with the version of events being told by these 3.
Who are the people disagreeing, and Are they saying these men lied ?
What part are they disagreeing with?
I would just wonder how tied into the administration they are.
I'm happy to see that this movie was a bust at the box office. It proves what a loser Benghazi has been with the American public as a rightwing political meme. The country has moved on even as Conservatives continue to beat, beat, beat that dead horse.
What that proves is that the general public - those who are ill-informed but don't know it, and happy to be led by the liberal media - aren't interested. Too much effort.
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Piece of fiction my ass.
13 Hours was based on the book by the 3 survivors. They took an active part in making sure that the movie was accurate. Facts, not allegations. No accusations of the administration. Just the question as to why no back up.
MrsM and I saw it yesterday. Intense as Hell
Every American, both parties, needs to see this movie.
Yes, but it's too much effort for those who echo, in so many ways, Clinton's outrageous comment
"what difference does it make!"
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Originally Posted by JAMS14
People who keep harping on a YouTube video seem pretty stupid to me.
The administration kept harping on that video for weeks on end. That was pretty stupid, you are right.
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Originally Posted by LoveToRow
You don't know what a lie is. You didn't know the meaning of the word "lie" when Bill Clinton wagged his finger at you and claimed he did not have sex with that woman, Monica Lewinsky. You didn't know the meaning of the word "lie" when Obama said "If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor." You didn't know the meaning of the word "lie" when Hillary stated she never sent classified information on her private email server. And you still don't know the meaning of the word "lie."
Having worked in the United States intelligence community, and having done so under both the Bush and Clinton administrations, I can tell you that when decisions are made based on intelligence that turns out to be wrong, that is not a "lie." It is a poorly informed decision based on information that is believed to be true at the time but later is disproven. This happens all the time in the intelligence world. If you had any experience in the field, or any common sense, you would understand this. But I don't expect you to understand it since you can't even grasp a simple concept like the meaning of the word "lie."
And, as long as we're talking about the decision to invade Iraq, you and every other apologist for the far left should be reminded that there was a bill passed by Congress that authorized the war in Iraq. It is called the Iraqi War Resolution. I encourage you to read it, because it is fairly clear that you never have. When you read it, you will find out that the alleged "lie" about WMDs is a tiny, tiny, tiny reason the Iraq war was authorized. There were many other reasons and justifications relied upon for invading Iraq, not the least of which was the fact that Iraq was firing on U.S. planes enforcing the UN's fly zone. That alone is an act of war which justified the entire Iraq war.
As an aside, I am confident that if another country today committed so many overt acts of war, including firing upon U.S. assets and personnel, that the limp-wristed pacifist in the White House would have neither the courage or the decency to respond properly. I feel sorry for the military personnel and the cops that serve in Obama's America. They don't deserve a leader like him, and they surely don't deserve Hillary.
I believe the results of the nine GOP-led Congressional investigations. If they had been able to pin any wrongdoing on the Obama Administration and SOS Clinton, they certainly would have. And boy, did they ever try. But no amount of wishful thinking was enough to change reality. Much to the dismay of Conservatives.
They still haven't gotten important emails and information from the State Department they need.
And the stand down lie is based on he said/she said and so far can't be proved which group is lying.
So again, who has the most motivation to lie?
Who are the people disagreeing, and Are they saying these men lied ?
What part are they disagreeing with?
I would just wonder how tied into the administration they are.
The OP's very first statement, they were ready to go but there was a stand-down order
The OP's very first statement, they were ready to go but there was a stand-down order
And not even one fighter anywhere that could have flown over the sand rats. No SpecOps unit within 12 hours? No extra security given even though requested.
Who are the people disagreeing, and Are they saying these men lied ?
What part are they disagreeing with?
I would just wonder how tied into the administration they are.
If you read the congressional investigations they document part of the disagreements.
According to the officer in charge of the CIA’s Benghazi base that night, the scene in the movie is entirely untrue.
“There never was a stand-down order,” said the base chief known as Bob, speaking publicly for the first time. “At no time did I ever second-guess that the team would depart.”
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The book accuses Bob of treating the GRS contractors like “Wal-Mart security guards.” He said that is a “distortion,” describing the security team as highly accomplished. “These guys were heroes,” he said.
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Bob acknowledged that he was “concerned about an ambush” and that a departure by the security team would have “left our base more vulnerable to attack.” But, he said, “there was never any question that there was going to be a rescue mission” and no instruction by him to hold off.
Instead, Bob said he spent much of the immediate period after the attack began, about 20 minutes, standing beside the leader of the GRS team — who still works at the CIA — scrambling to enlist local security teams.
One of the things he wanted was a gun truck and support. “Technicals,” Bob said. The militias they contacted were evasive. One offered to shelter the U.S. personnel at a nearby militia compound, Bob said, while others “didn’t necessarily want to help us, and some just didn’t know what to do.”
... A second CIA officer at Benghazi that evening backed Bob’s account. In an email provided to The Post, the officer said that “when asked if the security team could respond to the requests for assistance at the special mission compound by the security team leader, the chief of base responded with one word: ‘Absolutely.’ ”
The delay in responding is documented in Finding 7 from the house intelligence committee report. The finding starts on page 21 of the pdf (page 20 or the report).
The administration stopped "harping" on the video when the CIA revised its official assessment around the 21rst of Sept. So it was around 2 weeks.
The administration KNEW that was a lie and still they kept at it. "Official Assessment" was revised by the CIA, you say?
Oh, of course!
All the more reason to doubt what really happened. Thanks for pointing that out.
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Yes, but it's too much effort for those who echo, in so many ways, Clinton's outrageous comment
All the more reason to doubt what really happened. Thanks for pointing that out.
