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Old 11-03-2015, 06:52 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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There may have been a very good reason for them relieving 2 lower level managers but why couldn't they just hire someone new from the outside, is this such a specialty that only they could fit into the position.

They not only assumed postitions with less responsibility but they were also compsensated $400,000 in moving expenses, this makes no financial sense.

If they worked for a private compnay they would answer the questions or be fired, federal government is a different story.

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By MATTHEW DALY, Associated Press

WASHINGTON (AP) — Two high-ranking officials at the Department of Veterans Affairs refused to testify Monday night at a congressional hearing on allegations that they manipulated the agency's hiring system for their own gain.
The officials, Diana Rubens and Kimberly Graves, told a House committee they were asserting their Fifth Amendment rights under the Constitution to protect themselves against self-incrimination.
The VA's acting inspector general said in a report that Rubens and Graves forced lower-ranking regional managers to accept job transfers against their will. Rubens and Graves then stepped into the vacant positions themselves, keeping their pay while reducing their responsibilities, the IG said.

Rubens and Graves kept their salaries of $181,497 and $173,949, respectively, even though the new positions they took as directors at regional offices in Philadelphia and St. Paul had less responsibility and a lower pay range than their previous positions. Rubens was a deputy undersecretary at the VA's Washington headquarters, while Graves was director of VBA's Eastern Region.
2 VA Officials Refuse to Testify on Job-Manipulation Claims - US News
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Old 11-03-2015, 07:12 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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There may have been a very good reason for them relieving 2 lower level managers but why couldn't they just hire someone new from the outside, is this such a specialty that only they could fit into the position.

They not only assumed postitions with less responsibility but they were also compsensated $400,000 in moving expenses, this makes no financial sense.

If they worked for a private compnay they would answer the questions or be fired, federal government is a different story.


2 VA Officials Refuse to Testify on Job-Manipulation Claims - US News
Despite a growing budget of $165.6 billion (larger than the combined budgets of the Department of Transportation and the Office of Personnel Management) and an army of 323,000 staff (larger than the Marine Corps), it still takes months for most VA facilities to deliver both primary and specialty care to America’s veterans.

So when people say VA is underfunded, I really don't know what they are talking about. It is the leadership problem, not funding problem.

$400,000 in questionable moving expenses - are you serious?

Rubens and Graves kept their salaries of $181,497 and $173,949, respectively, even though the new positions they took as directors at regional offices in Philadelphia and St. Paul had less responsibility and a lower pay range than their previous positions.

Meanwhile, many veterans, especially the combat veterans suffer. To me personally, The poor treatment of veterans has nothing to do with funding and everything to do with administrative incompetence combined with craven deceit.
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Old 11-03-2015, 07:18 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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I still cannot get over the fact that

Rubens and Graves kept their salaries of $181,497 and $173,949, respectively, even though the new positions they took as directors at regional offices in Philadelphia and St. Paul had less responsibility and a lower pay range than their previous positions.


Must be great working for the government.
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Old 11-03-2015, 07:35 AM
 
Location: Long Island
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Yes of course these managers are irreplaceable.

It reminds me of Branch Rickey's statement on Ralph Kiners salary negotiations "we finished last with you, we can finish last without you".

Still can't get over the fact that they can't even answer basic questions with those types of responsibilities and salaries, how do they come close to justifing these expenses. Same as the GSA debacle, here is where I agree with Rubio, these people should be fired.
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Old 11-03-2015, 07:37 AM
 
Location: Newport Beach, California
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Yes of course these managers are irreplaceable.

It reminds me of Branch Rickey's statement on Ralph Kiners salary negotiations "we finished last with you, we can finish last without you".

Still can't get over the fact that they can't even answer basic questions with those types of responsibilities and salaries, how do they come close to justifing these expenses. Same as the GSA debacle, here is where I agree with Rubio, these people should be fired.
yeah I know.

$400,000 moving expenses.
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Old 11-03-2015, 07:47 AM
 
Location: Houston
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Time to eliminate the VA and give our veterans something superior but similar to Medicare.
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