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Old 11-18-2015, 02:46 PM
 
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I just spent the entire OP explaining how to tell who is and who isn't the right kind of refugees. A ten minute Q&A can generally tell you what religion someone is. If I ask a Christian posing as a Buddhist to tell me the Four Noble Truths, the Five Precepts and to tell me the story of the Buddha and the woman who wanted her baby brought back to live, I'll get a blank look and find a liar 99% of the time. Likewise, ask a Sunni posing as a Druze to quote something from the Al-Hikma and they will not be able to tell me.

That's great.

You get Obama's "screeners" to get on board and I'll be behind you.
You DO realize they are NOT asking those questions now right?
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Old 11-18-2015, 02:46 PM
 
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There is absolutely no way to do what you said. They are carrying fake ID's and even if they were real, there is NO database to check on them. NONE. The FBI even came out and said Obama is lying about saying we are vetting them. They said it is impossible to do because there is NOWHERE to look for resources, no database exists in Syria to check them against. So if they can't check their backgrounds and the ID's might be fake, how do they do it?

Again, if I ask a Christian pretending to be a Wiccan to summon a circle...what will happen? If I ask a Sunni posing as an Alawite to consecrate some wine or tell me the prayer said at sundown, the same thing will happen.

If ISIS can sort the Christians from the Muslims by asking them four questions at a checkpoint, I am sure INS can sort the Alewites, Druze and Christians from the Sunni by asking them an hour's worth of questions in an office.
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Old 11-18-2015, 02:48 PM
 
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That's great.

You get Obama's "screeners" to get on board and I'll be behind you.
You DO realize they are NOT asking those questions now right?
Dunno - what questions are they asking?
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Old 11-18-2015, 02:49 PM
 
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That's great.

You get Obama's "screeners" to get on board and I'll be behind you.
You DO realize they are NOT asking those questions now right?

YES AND THAT IS THE POINT OF THE OP!

I didn't say "yep, let them all in," I said "let the right kind in." Obama is screwing up as he usually does, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't let some poor Druze, Christians, Alewites and Isma'ilis seek asylum.

Look at it this way: how much sense would it have made to say "no, no Jewish refugees from Nazi occupied countries can come to the US. Sorry, but they may be Hitler sympathizers" ?
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Old 11-18-2015, 02:53 PM
 
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We're not talking about gold. We're talking about people, and 10% is a sliver.
So I can have 10% of all your wealth?


Exactly...and where oh where are the "concerned Christians" why this is happening? Huckabee, Carson and the rest are too busy flipping out over evolution in schools or gays actually being treated like human beings *gasp!* to worry about their fellow Christians being massacred.

These people remind me of the feminists who flip out about characters in video games having big breasts, but have nothing to say about ISIS holding sex slaves.

The Christian right and Modern Feminists should get together and have a latte and lament together about their first world problems.
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Old 11-18-2015, 05:38 PM
 
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YES AND THAT IS THE POINT OF THE OP!

I didn't say "yep, let them all in," I said "let the right kind in." Obama is screwing up as he usually does, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't let some poor Druze, Christians, Alewites and Isma'ilis seek asylum.

Look at it this way: how much sense would it have made to say "no, no Jewish refugees from Nazi occupied countries can come to the US. Sorry, but they may be Hitler sympathizers" ?
Your analogy is terrible.
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Old 11-18-2015, 10:09 PM
 
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Your analogy is terrible.
How is that? The Shia are traitors according to ISIS and should be wiped out. The Yazidi ethnic group are under a great threat of absolute extermination from ISIS then the Jews were under with Hitler. Just as the Jews of Germany were fleeing the Nazis who marked them for death after taking over their country, the Shia, Alewites etc are also marked for death by an ideology (Wahhabist-Qutbism) that has taken over their country.
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Old 11-18-2015, 10:11 PM
 
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Only Infidel Syrians should be accepted.
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Old 11-18-2015, 10:12 PM
 
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Only Infidel Syrians should be accepted.

And according to ISIS and Wahhabism in general, that means a big chunk of the Muslim population (Shia, Ahmadis, Sufis etc)
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Old 11-18-2015, 10:56 PM
 
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Again, if I ask a Christian pretending to be a Wiccan to summon a circle...what will happen? If I ask a Sunni posing as an Alawite to consecrate some wine or tell me the prayer said at sundown, the same thing will happen.

If ISIS can sort the Christians from the Muslims by asking them four questions at a checkpoint, I am sure INS can sort the Alewites, Druze and Christians from the Sunni by asking them an hour's worth of questions in an office.
just so you know, there is no INS any longer, and hasn't been since 2003

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