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Old 11-20-2015, 09:46 AM
 
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aww, that's precious. No really, it is.

some guy makes a video "I swear to God we will spill the blood of Americans in your cities and won't stop until the streets are filled with infidel blood".

he and anyone he associates with deserves to die.
Why do you think they feel that way? Because we have spilled their blood in their cities for decades. And then you act all surprised when they want to retaliate.

If we stayed out of their countries they'd stay out of ours. Why is that so hard to comprehend?
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Old 11-20-2015, 09:52 AM
 
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Why do you think they feel that way? Because we have spilled their blood in their cities for decades. And then you act all surprised when they want to retaliate.

If we stayed out of their countries they'd stay out of ours. Why is that so hard to comprehend?


ok, I'll play, rationalize and provide an excuse for the rest of these attacks on Western countries:

Islamic terror attacks on the West

You can skip all the El Al and Israeli embassy bombings. We already know they hate Jews.
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Old 11-20-2015, 09:59 AM
 
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Street gangs don't go around killing innocent women and children in the name of their gang. muslims do in the name of their religion. Do you understand the difference?


When was the last time a gang member sprayed a restaurant with bullets just to kill innocent people?
When was the last time a street gang set off a bomb with the sole purpose to kill innocent people?
When was the last time a street gang attacked some type of military office?


You wanna try again?

Amazing to me that people actually try and find some kind of moral equivalence between their behavior and ours! These are people who forcibly conscript children to be suicide bombers and killers.

ISIS Trains Child Soldiers at Camps for 'Cubs of the Islamic State' - NBC News

These are people who cut off prisoners heads while they are pleading for their lives and post the videos of it on the internet.
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Old 11-20-2015, 11:20 AM
 
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Why is someone that shoots and kills 20+ American school children not called a "terrorist"?

Because someone who is committing a mass shooting, like a school shooting, is mentally deranged. They're not doing it in the name of their religion or because some book told them to do so.
It seems the friends of many involved in the deal in France say they were not religious........they liked to drink and party.


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And if you want to say terrorists are mentally deranged, then there sure are a lot of mentally deranged people that seem to follow islam. Is there something wrong with these people or something wrong with the religion?
I might question those that support our killing women and children in places that are none of our business.
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Old 11-20-2015, 11:23 AM
 
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Why don't you ask an Islamic terrorist. I am not a sociopath, so I have no idea.
Could it maybe be because they aren't messing in their business all the time? They are constantly trying to overthrow their governments? Just maybe? Is it possible?

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They didn't shout death to France, or Death to the UK, so I guess there's no threat there.
They did blame what happened in France for France's role in the bombing of their country. Same as the bringing down of the Soviet plane.

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Same for Italy, Australia, Spain, Germany, etc. None of these countries have ever been the victim of Islamic terrorists because they didn't shout death to them first.
Indeed. They are mostly minding their own business. Imagine that, you make my argument for me.
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Old 11-20-2015, 11:24 AM
 
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War is hell always has been always will be.
Said the "terrorist".
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Old 11-20-2015, 11:26 AM
 
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Street gangs don't go around killing innocent women and children in the name of their gang. muslims do in the name of their religion. Do you understand the difference?


When was the last time a gang member sprayed a restaurant with bullets just to kill innocent people?
When was the last time a street gang set off a bomb with the sole purpose to kill innocent people?
When was the last time a street gang attacked some type of military office?


You wanna try again?
Again, if they do it they are terrorists targeting innocent people. When we do it, it's "collateral damage". We have targeted "innocent people" many times.
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Old 11-20-2015, 11:28 AM
 
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Amazing to me that people actually try and find some kind of moral equivalence between their behavior and ours! These are people who forcibly conscript children to be suicide bombers and killers.

ISIS Trains Child Soldiers at Camps for 'Cubs of the Islamic State' - NBC News

These are people who cut off prisoners heads while they are pleading for their lives and post the videos of it on the internet.
Dead is dead.......do you not think the mother who is about to get blown up along along with her children would not plead for their life if they had a chance?
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Old 11-20-2015, 11:34 AM
 
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Amazing to me that people actually try and find some kind of moral equivalence between their behavior and ours!
Right. Because when we kill innocent people it's righteous killing, because we're the good guys, right? Get your head out of your ass. Killing innocent people is killing innocent people, no matter who is doing the killing or for whatever reason they use to rationalize it. Those people end up just as dead.
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Old 11-20-2015, 11:37 AM
 
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Why is someone that shoots and kills 20+ American school children not called a "terrorist"?

Because someone who is committing a mass shooting, like a school shooting, is mentally deranged. They're not doing it in the name of their religion or because some book told them to do so.


And if you want to say terrorists are mentally deranged, then there sure are a lot of mentally deranged people that seem to follow islam. Is there something wrong with these people or something wrong with the religion?
There are crazies and terrorists in every religion-in fact it could be argued they are often attracted to the dogmatism. I don't care what or who told them to do it-and it doesn't make a person less mentally deranged if they are following orders or a religious creed. The violent act in and of itself is the terrorism.

Fear is too often used by the media and Government to manufacture consent for war. Why should we only fear the Muslim terrorists and violence thousands of Miles away but not the American kid shooting up a school? The Muslim terrorists state frequently why they do what they do-it is because we are occupying their countries and have been overthrowing their leaders and putting in Puppets for decades. We have been stealing their resources, destroying their infrastructure and meddling in their affairs. The kid shooting up the school usually has no reason for doing what he is doing. To me, that is scarier.

There are so many Middle-Eastern/Muslim terrorists today precisely because of the instability caused by US intervention and invasions over the decades. We have been bombing and killing and bombing and killing over there for decades. It is the literal definition of insanity to think that the US killing just a few thousand more terrorists and blowing up just a few hundred more hospitals or schools is going to solve anything. For every innocent child killed over there, 2 or 3 terrorists are created. It is never ending, and I find it eerie that the unstated goal of the War on "Terror" seems to be about prolonging it as long as possible, with no specific enemy or timeline. It can be moved from country to country infinitely, or until we are bankrupt financially and morally as a society.

We need to get our young MEN and WOMEN out of there for their safety and for our safety in the future. We must cease dealing with EVERY country in the Middle East, especially Saudi Arabia, Turkey and Israel.

The American people don't need oil from the Middle East. We don't need anything from them, and sadly our involvement over there has only caused their people devastation and destruction. It would also be best for them if we stopped the killing and occupying.

More and more people are waking up and understanding the reality. Others, seem to still be listening to the rants and ravings of the war criminals that for some reason are still being given air time on the corporately owned media.

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