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Old 11-20-2015, 06:44 PM
 
Location: north central Ohio
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Here's a few more Christian groups to add to the list

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...rrorist_groups


Yeah, what you said


Well, since that list does not specify which groups are Christian, it is useless.


Besides, as I said they sure aren't making any news, now are they?


I'm off to watch some Brit TV.

 
Old 11-20-2015, 07:24 PM
 
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[quote=LexusNexus;42011167]The political survival of the Conservative party (Republican) depends almost entirely on perpetuating FEAR. After all, they have nothing else to sell. Their ideology does NOT sell itself, so they represent pure political TOE JAM. They think American people are stupid enough to believe that only Republicans and Republican presidents know how to deal with organizations such as ISIS. Their strategy is simple:

Many voters are so gullible that they binge drink the Kool Aid. In the lead up to the 2004 election, Bush and his ilk kept upping the The Terror Warning Alert System. The FEAR strategy works really well for Republicans.
 
Old 11-20-2015, 07:30 PM
 
Location: Not-a-Theist
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Its estimated that between 5-25% are radicalized. Even if its only 5% out of 1.5 BILLION, do the math, thats 75 million...more than the population of most countries. Even if you went down to 2.5%, thats 37 MILLION. Most Muslims are not terrorists but most terrorists are Muslims.



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Really? I would love to see the methodology that went into this percentage you are saying. Of course one could argue how many Americans out of all Americans are going to commit a violent crime, and you would come to the same conclusion.
Here is the theory;


1. DNA wise all humans are potentially beasts [evil] and suppressed with fragile inhibitors.
2. Re Normal Curve Distribution a percentile of 20% are likely to be beastly with loose inhibitors.


3. Thus it is normal to have 20% of Muslims, i.e. 300 million [1.5 b x 20%] who are evil prone around the world.
In most surveys of Muslims an average of 40% approve of terror against non-Muslims.
See the various polls here;
Muslim Opinion Polls - Challenging the 'Tiny Minority of Extremists' Myth
So 20% is a conservative estimate.


4. More that 55% of the 6,236 verses in the Quran contain evil elements of contempt [in various degrees] against non-Muslims, the infidels, kuffar, kafirs. [I am very familiar with the Quran and have done reasonable research on this matter.]


What is most dangerous is when element 3 combine with element 4 to manifest terrible evils and violence committed onto non-Muslims.


I am not saying all the 300 million Muslims will commit terror but it is a very highly pool of potential evils and violence. It only took 18++ to do a 911, even lone wolves can create terrible havoc and horrors to the innocent non-Muslims. So a potential pool of 300 million evil prone Muslims around the world is a very frightening number.


The point is the above terror and evil are not mere speculation but have been happening since Islam emerged till the present.


Therefore as long as Islam exists, the default elements 3 & 4 will always exist to generate terrible evils and violence on non-Muslims and even other Muslims.


What is critical is humanity and Muslims themselves must understand and acknowledge Islam is equally good and inherently evil at the same time. Humanity will not be able to resolve Islamic-based violence until a critical mass recognize this fact.
 
Old 11-20-2015, 07:32 PM
 
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Radical jihadist Muslim account for about 15-25% of all Muslims. While that's a significant %, it at most about 1 in ever 4, so most Muslims are not jihadists bent on destroying the West.

It's sad and scary how many delusional people are so willing to vilify and entire group of people based on the actions and attitudes of a minority, albeit a significant minority. Prejudice a-holes.
 
Old 11-20-2015, 07:46 PM
 
Location: The Lone Star State
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Yet the Bible says the same kind of idiotic things, why not say all religions? Why aren't you concerned about extremists from all religious groups?
I don't know... might it be because all of the murdering terrorists these days are yelling "allahu akbar" rather than "praise Jesus" or "hail Buddha" or "this is for Vishnu!"
 
Old 11-20-2015, 07:49 PM
 
Location: The Lone Star State
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It's sad and scary how many delusional people are so willing to vilify and entire group of people based on the actions and attitudes of a minority, albeit a significant minority. Prejudice a-holes.
So kind of like Obama using what a few guys said to insinuate half of America is shameful. And while on foreign soil with all the world waching at that.
 
Old 11-20-2015, 08:43 PM
 
Location: Not-a-Theist
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Radical jihadist Muslim account for about 15-25% of all Muslims. While that's a significant %, it at most about 1 in ever 4, so most Muslims are not jihadists bent on destroying the West.

It's sad and scary how many delusional people are so willing to vilify and entire group of people based on the actions and attitudes of a minority, albeit a significant minority. Prejudice a-holes.
While most humans has the instinctual habit to generalize [a fallacy if no proofs], I don't think they ever think the entire group of Muslims are jihadists.


Usually is it due to an instinctual habit, convenience and laziness that many do not quality their variables when they speak of 'whites' 'blacks' women, men, 'Muslims' 'Christians' 'atheists' etc. with 'some,' 'a few' 'not all.' In actuality, even when most seem to generalize they do not really meant 'all.' If some one condemn women negatively surely they do not intend that to be applicable to their mother, sisters, aunts and female friends who they know very well are not negative.


1. What is critical is this discussion is Islam-in-part is inherently evil which inspire SOME evil prone Muslims to commit terrible evils and violence on non-Muslims. This is a reality and it is glaringly evident since to past to the present.


2. Another critical point in addition to 1 is the numbers involved, i.e. 1.5 billion Muslims around the world. Even if 1% that is 15 million and it only need a few Muslims to cause terrible evils around the world.


3. Thus the very existence of Islam itself is a cause for worry.
 
Old 11-20-2015, 10:29 PM
 
Location: Los Awesome, CA
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1 hour and 17 minutes.. I'll pass...
 
Old 11-20-2015, 11:02 PM
 
Location: USA
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Well, since that list does not specify which groups are Christian, it is useless.


Besides, as I said they sure aren't making any news, now are they?


I'm off to watch some Brit TV.
The list is 95% Islamic terror is groups, that's the sarcasm
 
Old 11-20-2015, 11:20 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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I don't know... might it be because all of the murdering terrorists these days are yelling "allahu akbar" rather than "praise Jesus" or "hail Buddha" or "this is for Vishnu!"
Or maybe it is all the news is reporting to you because they want you to stay focused on one specific general enemy.
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