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Your point is irrational. Predating anything has nothing to do with affiliation. Furthermore, instead of "affiliation" you mean to say "arm of" or "organ of" the Israeli government. That is not a requirement for hypocrisy. You are imposing it on the conversation and I do not agree.
Even a requirement of actual private group "affiliation" with the Israeli government is a filter that I don't agree is necessary nor logical.
If an organization is Zionist either passively (stated support but not a central focus) or actively, nationally or internationally influential, and hypocritical on refugees then that fulfills the hypocrisy criteria for a political Jewish group in my stated point. There is no logic for that group needing to be a part of the Israeli government.
Here are powerful international and national Zionist organizations working in tandem for refugee hypocrisy:
See below. If this isn't affiliation then I don't know what is. Apparently, your statement that 'a view that the WJC is affiliated with the Israeli government is as valid as stating that all Jewish organizations are affiliated with the Israeli government' (paraphrase) is completely invalid and uninformed. Of course, as I before stated, affiliation doesn't actually matter. The policy hypocrisy of powerful Zionist supporting organizations was my point:
There is no credible position that holds that there is no hypocrisy because Netenyahu is 'simply his own man who ignores these organizations on Israel taking refugees'. I have seen no credible evidence of heavy pressure from these organizations, reflected in the media, on Israel to take refugees. Claiming "well, we can't do anything about that stubborn Netenyahu" isn't credible given the lack of pressure on him to take refugees and the pressure on other Western nations.
Every single one of these international Jewish organizations should be putting heavy and successful pressure on Israel, first and foremost, to take refugees before they exert their influence internationally. This would avoid the impression of hypocrisy. Without this, merely citing Netenyahu's intransigence does not inspire trust. In essence, these organizations, in the case of the WJC an organization with intimate ties to the Knesset and likely throughout the Israeli political structure (let's be honest about the power of the WJC), could very well be using Netenyahu's simple answer of "no" to willfully ignore Israel's refusal and to concentrate pressure on other nations despite their repeated and strong "no" positions.
I'm not going to endlessly debate irrational goalposts and legalistic points, with no basis in reality, to absolve these organizations of their clear and almost uniform hypocrisy. The facts are that they have put significant political pressure on Western countries, mostly by cynically abusing history for modern political purposes, while largely ignoring Israel's non-participation. Those are the facts.
You are right. Just one more, in a long list of conspiracies cooked up by those dastardly, sneaky Jews.
There is no need for Europe to take a single Syrian refugee. NONE. I repeat: NONE.
As for the USA, since in a way USA created this mess, maybe USA could do her token part. But let Turkey set up camps, maybe this will put pressure on them to stop funding and supporting monsters in Daesh.
To be fair: IF we "need" to take in any kind of Middle east person; how about the US and Shengen take in the Christians, Yazidis, Muslim Kurds but have Kuwait and Saudi deal with the Muslim Arabs. Especially the Sunni kind.
To be fair: IF we "need" to take in any kind of Middle east person; how about the US and Shengen take in the Christians, Yazidis, Muslim Kurds but have Kuwait and Saudi deal with the Muslim Arabs. Especially the Sunni kind.
Kuwait and Saudi Arabia didn't destabilize the region. WE did.
Too true! If you replace the word JEW in Mein Kampf and many of the Nazi Party speeches from the 30's and 40's with the words "RICH and WEALTHY" used by those on the today's left you will have a accurate example of your position....
Really? This statement makes no sense whatsoever. I have never heard anyone in the Democratic Party talk about exterminating wealthy Americans. Have you? If you can compare speeches that suggest people in the top 1% pay their fair share or removing loopholes that allow giant corporations to pay little or no tax with the torturing, starving and mass murdering of innocent civilians, you have a very warped way of looking at history.
Is this the same Anne Frank who wrote her diary in ball-point pen before the ball-point pen
was invented ?
This statement doesn't even deserve a response. It was made during a criminal trial against neo-Nazis to discredit the book.
[url=http://www.nytimes.com/1989/06/08/books/an-authenticated-edition-of-anne-frank-s-diary.html]An Authenticated Edition of Anne Frank's Diary - NYTimes.com[/url]
I suppose you'll now tell me that the writings of Greek philosophers we can check out of libraries are fake because the ancient Greeks didn't have typewriters or computers?
I just love the right's sudden interest in helping Americans in need.
Funny how how that wasn't the message from the right until it became a convenient excuse for not helping Syrian refugees in need.
That always cracks me up. They're always like "screw my fellow Americans," until we have a crisis like this one. Then it's all about "we should be helping our people first." SMH
The Jews were not admitted because they were Jews! This was anti-semitism. Jews were not terrorists.
Yes and no. They were turned away in the 1930s because of antisemitism and the country's reluctance to admit so many refugees at a time when our country was still struggling from the aftermath of WWI.
Also, after the so-called liberation, do you know German Jews in the camps were separated from other Jews? A German Jew was still labeled "the enemy" because he came from Germany. Isn't that similar to why so many people want only to admit Christian refugees?
It's really a shame that so many people (not only Jews) died after the war from starvation and disease, but they stayed in the death camps for a long time after the Americans and Allied forces liberated the camps from the Nazis. I hesitate using the word liberate in this case. They still lived under military guard and behind barbed wired fences in the same camps where they witnessed torture and death.
well actually, The U.S. Government Turned Away Thousands of Jewish Refugees, Fearing That They Were Nazi Spies.the State Department and FDR claimed that Jewish immigrants could threaten national security
These suspicions were not only directed at ethnic Germans. “All foreigners became suspect. Jews were not considered immune,” says Richard Breitman, a scholar of Jewish history.
looks like nothing has changed. For national security purpose. LOL
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