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You realize that goes both ways, right? It's pretty obvious that you need to believe that Dear's motives had nothing to do with the politics of PP.
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Do you deny that by claiming that I "need to believe that Dear's motives had nothing to do with the politics of PP" that you weren't implying that his motives did have something to do with said politics?
Wow. That's a paranoid reading.
You really need to go back and read through our exchange. You are conflating my suggestion about the intention behind your posts with the intention behind Dear's actions. I've said nothing about the latter, which is why you can't produce a quote where I stated what Dear's motivations were. You, on the other hand, are doing what you are accusing others of doing--jumping to conclusions about Dear's motivations, which you clearly want to be anything not having to do with the politics of PP. If you were impartial toward the possible intentions behind Dear's actions, you wouldn't even be able to jump from a real critique of the intention behind your posts to an imaginary critique of the intention behind Dear's actions. That's just weird frankly.
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You really need to go back and read through our exchange. You are conflating my suggestion about the intention behind your posts with the intention behind Dear's actions. I've said nothing about the latter, which is why you can't produce a quote where I stated what Dear's motivations were. You, on the other hand, are doing what you are accusing others of doing--jumping to conclusions about Dear's motivations, which you clearly want to be anything not having to do with the politics of PP. If you were impartial toward the possible intentions behind Dear's actions, you wouldn't even be able to jump from a critique of the intention behind your posts to a critique of the intention behind Dear's actions. That's just weird frankly.
Why would you even mention the politics of PP in connection with this discussion if you did not mean to imply that was the motive of Mr. Dear? Do you not realize that most thinking people will see your post as damage control? You have made it abundantly clear what motive you think Mr. Dear had, why not come out and say it?
Why would you even mention the politics of PP in connection with this discussion if you did not mean to imply that was the motive of Mr. Dear?
You were the one to initially bring up political ideology not me:
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What was Dear's political ideology, and how do you no so much when no one else does?
I haven't suggested anything about Dear. You, on the other hand, suggested this:
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What group was that? I don't recall him being part of any group, he was a lone nut that went off the deep end.
Once again, you--not me--are giving motivations to Dear's actions.
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Do you not realize that most thinking people will see your post as damage control? You have made it abundantly clear what motive you think Mr. Dear had, why not come out and say it?
Unfortunately you are making this up in your head and my posts suggest nothing that you are attributing to them. I have offered no opinion on Dear's motives. Sorry. I understand you are new here but you want to try and stick to what people actually write and critique that, not the things they didn't write.
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As far as political persuasion in relation to this act... it is highly likely to be religious conservative. Who else goes and shoots up abortion clinics... pro choicers? Please. Let's not act so conveniently dense about this. There is a clear and well-known ideological bent to this, as opposed to the random loon who goes and shoots up a movie theater.
As far as political persuasion in relation to this act... it is highly likely to be religious conservative. Who else goes and shoots up abortion clinics... pro choicers? Please. Let's not act so conveniently dense about this. There is a clear and well-known ideological bent to this, as opposed to the random loon who goes and shoots up a movie theater.
His "no more baby parts" comment shows the attack was politically motivated. Some suggest he is Christian but Christians do not do things like this, politically motivated nutcases do things like this. Clearly he had some mental problems.
His "no more baby parts" comment shows the attack was politically motivated. Some suggest he is Christian but Christians do not do things like this, politically motivated nutcases do things like this. Clearly he had some mental problems.
This is where the heightened rhetoric from the GOP comes into play along with the anti-PP sentiment including the constant congressional oversight. It's one thing to oppose abortion it's quite another to make up unsubstantiated lies to drive people into a frenzy.
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