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Originally Posted by veezybell
What kind of strawman nonsense is this? First of all, a hostage situation is different from willingly joining a gang. Do you know that a lot of gangs are considered extremist organizations by the FBI? You ever heard of the Aryan Nation? They're extremists that happen to be in a gang. ISIS is an extremist organization that is run much like a criminal organization, or "gang". Have you ever been to any country in the ME? My guess is no.
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ISIS is also the government. That means people who are living there don't really have a
choice whether to "join" ISIS. ISIS is just there, muscled in and running things.
Contrast that to the Aryan Nation, where one does have a choice whether to join or not. Aryan Nation and ISIS are two very different entity with very different model, and to compare them is why your analogy is off.
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Originally Posted by veezybell
I've seen numerous times where entire villages are "taken hostage" by a group of no more than 10 men. How is this possible when everyone there has guns? Or maybe, JUST MAYBE, they weren't taken hostage but instead willingly joined.
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The reports out of the region universally said that some people love ISIS, some are neutral, some absolutely despised them.
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Originally Posted by veezybell
Here's a short story for you: last time I was deployed, we had a program set up to stop the farming/sales of opium and marijuana. We gave the farmers alternative crops to grow and that were ideal for that atmosphere. What did the farmers do? Keep growing the drugs AND the crops we gave them so that they could double dip in the profits.
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Yes, I've read about that. And I'm not sure what this story has to do with our topic. It seems the farmers are motivated more with making money than serving a terrorist cause.
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Originally Posted by veezybell
I don't know how many times I've personally witnessed my unit giving the village elders arms and ammunition to defend themselves and their villages against (insert terrorist group here), only to go on patrol a week later and get shot at with the same weapons we just distributed because the elders sold them to (insert terrorist group here) and kept the AK-47s and RPGs that they already had. You need to understand the situation over there before you comment about stabilization efforts.
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So the solution is to kill everybody who
could be associated with terrorists?
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