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Old 12-07-2015, 04:32 PM
 
Location: Southeast Michigan
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Originally Posted by Quick Enough View Post
"If this is not considered an "assault weapon," what is?"

Maybe you should find out BEFORE MAKING ALL YOUR COMMENTS about banning them.

It would save you from looking so foolish and ignorant on the subject.

This is one REASON why we can't have "honest" discussions on guns.

People who DON"T know the difference leep commenting as if they do.
That's because they believe that all legal guns are equally evil, they don't need to know the difference, they just need to start somewhere. Note that no gun control proponents have ever publicly called for police going door to door through the crime ridden inner city hoods confiscating illegal weapons (that are at least as numerous as the legal ones). They are opposed to the legal gun ownership but see the illegal gun ownership as some byproduct problem that would go away on it's own once the legal guns are confiscated.

 
Old 12-07-2015, 04:43 PM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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Originally Posted by Ummagumma View Post
AR-15 and AK-47 combined are used in much less than 2% of murders. Probably less than 1%. What problem exactly are you trying to solve going after them ? A real one, or a propaganda one ?
I don't think most people who know anything about guns has a problem with either one of those weapons, I know I don't. But I don't think there is any reason for the general public to have high capacity magazines. But the problem is that there are so many of them in circulation even if they were banned it would take 100 years to get rid of them. Maybe an answer would be to make possession of a high capacity magazine illegal by anyone other than law enforcement or a CCW holder...
 
Old 12-07-2015, 04:54 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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Originally Posted by Quick Enough View Post
"If this is not considered an "assault weapon," what is?"

Maybe you should find out BEFORE MAKING ALL YOUR COMMENTS about banning them.

It would save you from looking so foolish and ignorant on the subject.

This is one REASON why we can't have "honest" discussions on guns.

People who DON"T know the difference leep commenting as if they do.


So your answer is, "nothing."

Let me help you.

Quote:
"In general, assault weapons are semiautomatic firearms with a large magazine of ammunition that were designed and configured for rapid fire and combat use."
Loaded language poisons gun debate
 
Old 12-07-2015, 05:11 PM
 
Location: Itinerant
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Originally Posted by Goodnight View Post
Wholesale records are off limits in addtion to the lenth of time they can go back. They also need to get a search warrant with a for a specific target, maybe that includes all phone contacts, maybe not. The question is can they branch out to other phone numbers on their list, second, third, etc and what is required in the warrant.
Why do they need wholesale records when they don't need to fish?

The only reason they would need bulk records is if they don't know who could be a suspect. They know precisely who the suspects are, so they can subpoena or get a warrant for the phone records (which is at least 18-24 months) all calls made and all numbers who called.

The FBCINSA (FBI/CIA/NSA) are just throwing their toys out of the crib making ridiculous statements because they see an opportunity to take advantage of the situation.

Pity they didn't take advantage before this happened, eh?
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Old 12-07-2015, 05:15 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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Originally Posted by jojajn View Post
So your answer is, "nothing."

Let me help you.


Loaded language poisons gun debate
CNN seriously

Even "the blaze" has someone on their staff that's not a complete idiot. Which rather impresses me with some of the other click bait junk they produce.

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013...-is-demonized/
 
Old 12-07-2015, 06:13 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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CNN seriously

Even "the blaze" has someone on their staff that's not a complete idiot. Which rather impresses me with some of the other click bait junk they produce.

So What Is an ‘Assault Rifle’ Really? We Look at the Definitions and How the Term Is ‘Demonized’ | Video | TheBlaze.com
Actually, the definition was taken from the Justice Department as was stated on the CNN site.
http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-1...3hr3355enr.pdf

So what is the definition of an assault riffle/weapon? Or is this a NRA top secret, LOL! None of the pro-gun people can seem to provide an answer, only ridicule.
 
Old 12-07-2015, 06:14 PM
 
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Actually, the definition was taken from the Justice Department as was stated on the CNN site.

So what is the definition of an assault riffle/weapon? Or is this a NRA top secret, LOL! None of the pro-gun people can seem to provide an answer, only ridicule.
I'm afraid Obama's "Justice Department" is not a credible source. Try again.
 
Old 12-07-2015, 06:25 PM
 
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Originally Posted by jojajn View Post
So your answer is, "nothing."

Let me help you.


Loaded language poisons gun debate
And 2 more sentences down from your quote:

"The National Shooting Sports Foundation and other gun enthusiasts complain that what ultimately separated an "assault weapon" from a "non-assault weapon" under the 1994 law was cosmetic."

Which means you have provide not a single thing....or "nothing" as you say....


So, let's just go straight to the bottom:

jojajn, what is YOUR definition of an assault rifle?

Not what other people say, but your own definition of an assault rifle.

We don't need to see links of what others say, which seems to be your trait lately, but your very own interpretation of an assault rifle.
 
Old 12-07-2015, 06:34 PM
 
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Originally Posted by chucksnee View Post
And 2 more sentences down from your quote:

"The National Shooting Sports Foundation and other gun enthusiasts complain that what ultimately separated an "assault weapon" from a "non-assault weapon" under the 1994 law was cosmetic."

Which means you have provide not a single thing....or "nothing" as you say....


So, let's just go straight to the bottom:

jojajn, what is YOUR definition of an assault rifle?

Not what other people say, but your own definition of an assault rifle.

We don't need to see links of what others say, which seems to be your trait lately, but your very own interpretation of an assault rifle.
How about we describe it as any rifle which can be fired a second time by only another trigger pull?

Might have to clean up the language...fired a subsequent time by a subsequent trigger pull with no other action required.
 
Old 12-07-2015, 06:36 PM
 
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How about we describe it as any rifle which can be fired a second time by only another trigger pull?


How about no.

Now you have just labeled every single SEMI auto rifle as an assault rifle.
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