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Old 12-04-2015, 12:42 PM
 
Location: St Louis, MO
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I don't really care about job numbers and unemployment rates, directly. I have a job and it is plenty secure. Of course, if I ever quit this job I have a 12-month post-employment ban within my state and industry which is perfectly fine under our state law.

What I care about is completely stagnant wages. No one in our entire organization of 5k+ has had a merit raise since 2007 and that is not changing any time soon because no one else is giving merit raises anymore.

 
Old 12-04-2015, 12:56 PM
 
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You know these numbers are seasonally adjusted, right?


Yeah, I don't really think they understand the concept. Here are the seasonally unadjusted (raw) numbers: http://www.dlt.ri.gov/lmi/laus/us/usunadj.htm

50,000 jobs were created last month on the heels of almost 800,000 in October. We lost massive amounts in the summer though. There's too much noise, which is why they get adjusted.

Seasonally unadjusted numbers are only really useful for year over year comparisons. In that measure, were up 2.1 million jobs since last November, which is in line with the adjusted numbers.
 
Old 12-04-2015, 01:08 PM
 
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To the Right Wingers, it does not matter what and how many positives are engaged and performed in the Obama Administration, these bigots, race obsessed groups will find something to grip and moan about. The thinking, the unbiased and the wise among us in society know what to appreciate and understand what positive reporting is unto the economy.
These others, let them say what they will. Most are not going to do anything but tune back in to FOX, turn up Limbaugh and re-endorse their Antebellum aspirations, and they will rally cry that the sky is falling and Obama won't let the sun shine.

It certainy is more people working due to President Obama, his policies and his push and promotion of the need and creation of jobs, which by far exceed the devastation which was left for him to deal with. He'd done well, even in the face of continual right wing mad man attacks at every turn about ever issue and every concern. Thank goodness he is man enough to do his job and do it for the American people.
 
Old 12-04-2015, 01:10 PM
 
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Obama is a genius.
 
Old 12-04-2015, 01:15 PM
 
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Originally Posted by Chance and Change View Post
To the Right Wingers, it does not matter what and how many positives are engaged and performed in the Obama Administration, these bigots, race obsessed groups will find something to grip and moan about. The thinking, the unbiased and the wise among us in society know what to appreciate and understand what positive reporting is unto the economy.
These others, let them say what they will. Most are not going to do anything but tune back in to FOX, turn up Limbaugh and re-endorse their Antebellum aspirations, and they will rally cry that the sky is falling and Obama won't let the sun shine.

It certainy is more people working due to President Obama, his policies and his push and promotion of the need and creation of jobs, which by far exceed the devastation which was left for him to deal with. He'd done well, even in the face of continual right wing mad man attacks at every turn about ever issue and every concern. Thank goodness he is man enough to do his job and do it for the American people.

Translation: Facts were presented that dispute the central thesis in the OP. Liberals got upset that their attempt at trolling and cheerleading became a giant thread-fail so now it's "racism and bigotry".
The usual stock response when someone criticizes the president.
 
Old 12-04-2015, 01:55 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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To the Right Wingers, it does not matter what and how many positives are engaged and performed in the Obama Administration, these bigots, race obsessed groups will find something to grip and moan about. The thinking, the unbiased and the wise among us in society know what to appreciate and understand what positive reporting is unto the economy.
These others, let them say what they will. Most are not going to do anything but tune back in to FOX, turn up Limbaugh and re-endorse their Antebellum aspirations, and they will rally cry that the sky is falling and Obama won't let the sun shine.

It certainy is more people working due to President Obama, his policies and his push and promotion of the need and creation of jobs, which by far exceed the devastation which was left for him to deal with. He'd done well, even in the face of continual right wing mad man attacks at every turn about ever issue and every concern. Thank goodness he is man enough to do his job and do it for the American people.
the unfortunate thing is the fascist liberals only see racism and bigotry

its not obama that is the problem, its the left wing politics and policies


obama inherited a mess that started under clinton... bush didnt cause it, he certainly didnt help it either, and obama has done nothing to help middlelcass americans

what you see here is another liberal not willing to OWN UP TO their mess

globalist liberal policies going back to the early 90's are what caused the recession

the 'great recession' was due to liberal policies of offshoring jobs and easymoney housing


let this INFORM you, these problems stem from: 1993, 1995, and 1999 and you can thank the liberals for it, and most of it goes back to the clinton era. why because ECONOMICS run in 10(+/-4) year CYCLES and what we are facing NOW is in DIRECT RELATION to what happened back in the 90's

1993 OUTSOURCING throuth NAFTA(and the other 2 dozen 'freetrade agreements)----------------originally pushed by Brzezenski and his liberal puppet carter,,moved along by reagan's VP bush1----negotiated by another brzezenski puppet bush1--- passed in 1993 by the democrat controlled congress, pushed by clinton, signed by clinton-inceased with CAFTA by bush2--the consequence ...... 60+ million HIGH PAYING jobs have been lost, 2 trillion worth of debt from the lost wages.(and obama ahs increased it too, not only as Senateor Obama with OFTA, but also as potus obama..............hmmm)

1995 clinton (through his chief of HUD (Henry Cisneros and later his second chief andrew coumo)) eased the rules on obtaining mortgages allowing more 'exotic' mortgages and 'no-doc/low doc' mortgages---------------------------the consequence ......housing SKYROCKETED causing low inventories causing a 'not normal' increase in home prices, sellers got greedy, buyers got even greedier (looking to PROFIT in a skyrocketing market by flipping) and bought THINKING that prices would still increase and their ADJUSTABLE mortgage would pay it self off in MINIMUMAL years...EVEN THOUGH THESE INCREASES IN HOME VALUES WERE TOTALLY UNHEARD OF, AND MORTGAGE RATES WERE AT 40 YEAR LOWS( what did they think an adjustable mortgage gotten at 40 year lows would do in the term(3 months-3years) when it adjusted...of course it would go up, their CONTRACT even said after the term it would be 6% PLUS PRIME)))
For many potential homebuyers, the lack of cash available to accumulate the required downpayment and closing costs is the major impediment to purchasing a home. Other households do not have sufficient available income to to make the monthly payments on mortgages financed at market interest rates for standard loan terms. Financing strategies, fueled by the creativity and resources of the private and public sectors, should address both of these financial barriers to homeownership."
The above is the start of the mortgage meltdown: Clinton's National Homeownership Strategy


those are the two biggest causes of the great recession








then add these to the perfect storm:



1996 clinton signed The Telecommunications Act of 1996 (The Act was claimed to foster competition. Instead, it allowed industry consolidation whose actions reduced the number of major media companies from around 30 in 1993 to 10 in 1996, and reducing the 10 in 1996 to 6 in 2005.) causing MONOPOLIES, which can RAISE PRICES

1998 clinton does not allow drilling for OUR OWN OIL..the liberals say 'it will take ten years before we seee the oil'...guess what its been ten and more years

1999 Clinton DEREGULATES the banking industry

2000 clinton signs the China trade bill

2000 clinton signs the Commodity Futures Modernization Act of 2000..(which paves the way for ENRON)

2000/1 clinton pushes to get china into the world bank

2002 bush and medicare part d...., bush giving the liberals more big government

2003/4/5 republicans try to reign in fanny and freddie...the liberal opposition leaders (barney frank and cris Dodd) say "there is nothing wrong with fanny/Freddie...its a witch hunt"........boy does barney have egg on his face now

07/09 liberals raise the min wage...adding to the perfect storm



it aint the gop.....its the liberals (and liberals(ie progressives) can be from both the democrat party and the rino party) that have cost us
 
Old 12-04-2015, 02:01 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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Exactly!

This is why minimum wage is such a non-issue because the job market is so hot everyone has to pay double and triple minimum wage just to attract the help they need.
Well, I guess you are making fun of me. I was just giving my HUMBLE opinion.

Sorry if it offended you.
 
Old 12-04-2015, 02:01 PM
 
Location: Free From The Oppressive State
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Macy's and Hobby Lobby are hiring seasonal help. Chick fil A is opening stores.


Balance that number against the historic totals of people no longer looking for a job.
that 5% UR sounds great untill you realize the per cent represents only a tiny pool of job seekers.


Obama math skills are wanting so he gets minions to perform creative statistics.


Obama is hooting and hollering from a sedated bronco. when obama gets off, the bronc will come to life.


Bagdad Bob has nothing on our Lexus
Win.

It's why I've had that person on ignore for a very long time now.
 
Old 12-04-2015, 02:04 PM
 
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Not Obama --- credit to the new Republican majority in congress, and the Republican majorities in state government.
They are finally able to get things done despite this administration. And businesses aren't so afraid anymore of what O will do next.
Thank you American voters, now keep it up in 2016 !
 
Old 12-05-2015, 05:10 AM
 
Location: Phoenix
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Originally Posted by Chance and Change View Post
To the Right Wingers, it does not matter what and how many positives are engaged and performed in the Obama Administration, these bigots, race obsessed groups will find something to grip and moan about. The thinking, the unbiased and the wise among us in society know what to appreciate and understand what positive reporting is unto the economy.
These others, let them say what they will. Most are not going to do anything but tune back in to FOX, turn up Limbaugh and re-endorse their Antebellum aspirations, and they will rally cry that the sky is falling and Obama won't let the sun shine.

It certainy is more people working due to President Obama, his policies and his push and promotion of the need and creation of jobs, which by far exceed the devastation which was left for him to deal with. He'd done well, even in the face of continual right wing mad man attacks at every turn about ever issue and every concern. Thank goodness he is man enough to do his job and do it for the American people.
Republicans control the House and the Senate...Obama just signed what they passed. The devastation when he was elected was caused by a Democrat House and Senate that Bush unfortunately signed their bills.
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