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Old 12-05-2015, 06:21 PM
 
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President Obama simply does not embrace reality.
There is no clear ideological campaign to fight ISIS or Islamists.
Terror is a Muslim issue, an Islamic issue within the house of Islam.
'Own it' -- Terrorism is an Islamic issue, say some Muslims | The Salt Lake Tribune


Zuhdi Jasser is the only American Muslim who I know in mainstream media, that speaks the truth and does not dodge around as all other Muslim spokesman do.

I support this man 100%.
Unfortunately whenever Zuhdi holds a rally, a paltry 20 Muslims show up.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Vh0cNm49zE

 
Old 12-05-2015, 07:06 PM
 
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President Obama simply does not embrace reality.
There is no clear ideological campaign to fight ISIS or Islamists.
Terror is a Muslim issue, an Islamic issue within the house of Islam.
'Own it' -- Terrorism is an Islamic issue, say some Muslims | The Salt Lake Tribune


Zuhdi Jasser is the only American Muslim who I know in mainstream media, that speaks the truth and does not dodge around as all other Muslim spokesman do.

I support this man 100%.
Unfortunately whenever Zuhdi holds a rally, a paltry 20 Muslims show up.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Vh0cNm49zE


that vid hurt my ears!!!!
 
Old 12-05-2015, 07:10 PM
 
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Watch this guy's film "The Third Jihad" and your eyes will be opened even further. Love this guy. He's absolutely right, and we need more Muslims like him.
 
Old 12-05-2015, 07:11 PM
 
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IRA in Ireland - was that a christian issue?
The church burnings - is that a christian issue?
How does naming it a muslim issue solve the problem of terrorism and ISIS, when they are killing muslims?
why is to so important that muslims should own it?
 
Old 12-05-2015, 07:11 PM
 
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Muslims can't conquer the western world if they admit the truth about their religion and their goals.
 
Old 12-05-2015, 07:14 PM
 
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IRA in Ireland - was that a christian issue?
The church burnings - is that a christian issue?
How does naming it a muslim issue solve the problem of terrorism and ISIS, when they are killing muslims?
why is to so important that muslims should own it?
Yes, the KKK and IRA were Christian issues, but today they aren't nearly as powerful or relevant as Islamic terror.
 
Old 12-05-2015, 07:27 PM
 
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Yes, the KKK and IRA were Christian issues, but today they aren't nearly as powerful or relevant as Islamic terror.
they were never described as such. even if, those caught were murderers and terrorists and were prosecuted in US courts.
how does naming the ISIS problem a muslim problem help toward a solution for terrorism?
why is it important to name it a muslim problem?
I
 
Old 12-05-2015, 07:35 PM
 
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Now let's pretend that someone would suggest that all the white people in the world take ownership for racism, what do you think the response would be?
 
Old 12-05-2015, 07:43 PM
 
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they were never described as such. even if, those caught were murderers and terrorists and were prosecuted in US courts.
how does naming the ISIS problem a muslim problem help toward a solution for terrorism?
why is it important to name it a muslim problem?
I
because ISIS is just one of hundreds of worldwide Islamic terror group.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...rrorist_groups

The solution has to come from within the Muslim community, and its not going to happen if they dont take the ownership.

The Muslims need a counter narrative from within their community to what all the Islamists are saying. There is no voice out there that promotes secular values where Women, LGBT, and Minorities are no longer treated as second-class citizens. There is no voice saying that jihad is no longer permissible, and that blasphemers and apostates will not be killed.
 
Old 12-05-2015, 08:43 PM
 
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because ISIS is just one of hundreds of worldwide Islamic terror group.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...rrorist_groups

The solution has to come from within the Muslim community, and its not going to happen if they dont take the ownership.

The Muslims need a counter narrative from within their community to what all the Islamists are saying. There is no voice out there that promotes secular values where Women, LGBT, and Minorities are no longer treated as second-class citizens. There is no voice saying that jihad is no longer permissible, and that blasphemers and apostates will not be killed.
how do you know there are no voices out there? if you listen you will hear. most of these countries have no freedom of speech and yet there are voices that rise in protest and are brutally put down. The US supports and has historically supported these same governments and tyrants.
the christian right in the US does not believe in LGBT rights or women's reproductive rights or minority rights and they attack planned parenthood centers, schools and churches.
how does it matters what "voices" say? look at how muslims live in the US. they are small business owners, workers, doctors, scientists, lawyers, entertainers, parents who want good schools for their children who take care of their elders, do charitable work - all good american values. they may even be your neighbors. why should they answer for ISIS?
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