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Old 12-24-2015, 04:07 PM
 
Location: Sinking in the Great Salt Lake
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Who gave my rights away? Rights that were given to me by no man?

That man and those there to carryout his will, better be willing and fully prepared, to meet my creator that gave them to me.



Remember...... your freedom, will never be free.
That is why freedom is so scary to the over protected.
Worse... they are going to take your freedoms away in exchange for an empty promise of safety which they ultimately cannot deliver on.
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Old 12-24-2015, 04:17 PM
 
Location: When you take flak it means you are on target
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Wow! This thread is a perfect example of why we are where we are today. A divided country of patriots and ignorance on a road to Perdition with no apparent way to fix things short of eventual bloodshed. I lament for the younger folks who are growing up without a notion of what freedom is.
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Old 12-24-2015, 04:26 PM
 
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Or those of an age that are afraid of their own shadows and cannot deal with the fear without all this nonsense about losing things not owned.

You've never been free to do what you "wish", never.
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Old 12-24-2015, 04:30 PM
 
Location: Tip of the Sphere. Just the tip.
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There is freedom in isolation and in anonymity. But in a crowded modern society? Pure fantasy to think you'll get to play out your cowboy (or Indian ) fantasies.
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Old 12-24-2015, 04:52 PM
 
Location: Sinking in the Great Salt Lake
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Wow! This thread is a perfect example of why we are where we are today. A divided country of patriots and ignorance on a road to Perdition with no apparent way to fix things short of eventual bloodshed. I lament for the younger folks who are growing up without a notion of what freedom is.
Actually, it's a land of two overpopulated, wacky and culturally bankrupt coasts imposing their ideas on how to fix problems that hardly exist or are even outright irrelevant throughout most of the 2000 or so miles of country between them.

Somone in New York or San Francisco has no business telling someone in Wyoming or Kentucky what type of gun they can or cannot own. The current set of rules (states and cities make their own additional restrictions) is as good and balanced as it gets.
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Old 12-24-2015, 09:23 PM
 
Location: Houston
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And the freedom to discriminate is a right too. It does not violate your rights you're free to go and obtain service from other providers who do not share the same discrimination policies. You may have a right to service, but you do not have a right to be serviced by any specific service provider.
And in the instances where there are no other providers as is the case in many rural areas?
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Old 12-24-2015, 10:11 PM
 
Location: Itinerant
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And in the instances where there are no other providers as is the case in many rural areas?
There are always other providers, they may not be convenient, but you do not have the right to convenience.

I happen to live in a rural area, there are two stores within 150 miles of me. How much do you want to bet that people who go there are on their best behavior when they go? How much do you want to bet if someone came in laying down the "law" demanding service they'd get the bums rush and wind up getting everything they need from Fairbanks, and never being able to pick up emergency supplies at the local stores?

Good rule of thumb is to live by Wheatons Law.
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Old 12-24-2015, 10:17 PM
 
Location: Tip of the Sphere. Just the tip.
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And we're back to "freedom to discriminate".

Sorry folks. The Civil Rights Act is the law of the land.

Don't like that? I see no reason why I should care
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Old 12-24-2015, 10:31 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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There is freedom in isolation and in anonymity. But in a crowded modern society? Pure fantasy to think you'll get to play out your cowboy (or Indian ) fantasies.
This kind of thinking is fallacy.

Self-ownership and human interaction are not mutually exclusive.

Humans are born from humans. If spontaneous generation was our basis I'd give your view some thought.
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Old 12-24-2015, 10:43 PM
 
Location: USA
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Or those of an age that are afraid of their own shadows and cannot deal with the fear without all this nonsense about losing things not owned.

You've never been free to do what you "wish", never.
Speak for yourself. In America for more than a century, you were free to do what you wanted up to the point of directly harming others. Well, that was up until the Federal Gov't decided it wanted to supplant itself for the proper roles of the State governments, and the fruits of liberty.

Yes, Uncle Sam is attempting to rob us blind - of our legacy, or Republic and our freedom - and he has a lot of useful dupes - check mirror right now - to assist.
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