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Old 12-10-2015, 12:54 AM
 
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And all the other women in the world who have been raped can heave a collective sigh of relief that at least the guy who raped them wasn't a Muslim migrant saying "Allahu Akbar." I'm sure they feel much better now.
The story isn't about all other women in the world. It is about a Muslim migrant that kidnapped, beat and violently raped a woman while chanting a Islamic phrase in her face.

You just dislike the fact that (a) he is Muslim and (b) chanted an Islamic phrase while committing a violent act. You can't change the fact he is a Muslim migrant and used a Islamic phrase while committing a violent crime

 
Old 12-10-2015, 12:58 AM
 
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No, I dislike the fact that men still think it is ok to rape women.
 
Old 12-10-2015, 01:03 AM
 
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No, I dislike the fact that men still think it is ok to rape women.
One should feel disgusted that
(a) a woman was violently raped by a male
(b) a woman was raped by a religious male using a reglious phrases while doing it.
 
Old 12-10-2015, 01:07 AM
 
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Which is the problem? The "violent crime" or chanting "Allah Akbar"?
Both


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So...........................what do you think a non-Muslim American citizen says when he's raping a female??
Does he just pump away and grunt?? Does he threaten to kill her? Does he whisper sweet nothings in her ear?
All of the above. Doesn't change the fact he used a religious phrase while doing it.


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Does it really make a difference if it's a Muslim or a non-Muslim? An immigrant compared to someone born in the US? It doesn't change the fact that the person doing the raping is a sick POS.
It matters when someone is using religious phrases while committing a violent crime because it points to a bigger issue. It might not matter to you but it does matter to a lot of people
 
Old 12-10-2015, 01:17 AM
 
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The problem is a Muslim migrant decided he had the right to violently rape a woman while chanting an Islamic phrase in her face. This woman will live with the fact she was raped by a man who chanted Allahu Akbar while doing it.

Thats where the problem begins and ends for you. He made it about his religion the minute he decided to chant Allahu Akbar while committing a violent act against a female.
And what is the reasoning behind non-Muslim Americans who rape women?


It seems his religion takes precedent over the woman being raped - he made it about his religion!!! Oh, the outrage because he was a Muslim chanting Allah Akbar!!!


If people can get outraged over this because of someone's religion, maybe they should get outraged over the thousands of women who get raped every year by sick individuals who aren't Muslims.


You think that him chanting Allah Akbar will have more of an impact on her than the thousands of women who get raped every year and their rapist said nothing or threatened to kill them?
 
Old 12-10-2015, 01:22 AM
 
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And what is the reasoning behind non-Muslim Americans who rape women?
Irrelevant. We are not talking about a non-Muslim American who raped a woman.

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It seems his religion takes precedent over the woman being raped - he made it about his religion!!! Oh, the outrage because he was a Muslim chanting Allah Akbar!!!
It seems certain people want to ignore certain details because they dislike it.

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If people can get outraged over this because of someone's religion, maybe they should get outraged over the thousands of women who get raped every year by sick individuals who aren't Muslims.
Who said people aren't outrage about women who get raped everyday? Nice try on your deflection.

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You think that him chanting Allah Akbar will have more of an impact on her than the thousands of women who get raped every year and their rapist said nothing or threatened to kill them?
Still trying to deflect on the current issue.
 
Old 12-10-2015, 01:28 AM
 
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Both


All of the above. Doesn't change the fact he used a religious phrase while doing it.


It matters when someone is using religious phrases while committing a violent crime because it points to a bigger issue. It might not matter to you but it does matter to a lot of people

All of the above? And just how do you know that?


The issue is that the woman was raped. But people want to make it about religion.


What matters to me is that a woman was RAPED. Every rape points to a bigger issue. Every child who has been and is molested/raped by a pedophile (some being family members) points to a bigger issue.
You just want to latch on to the fact that he used religion as an excuse for raping a woman. You are putting the excuse before the horrendous act he committed.


Would it have made a difference if he didn't chant? Would this have made news if he didn't chant? More than likely, no. She would just be another statistic.
 
Old 12-10-2015, 01:31 AM
 
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Irrelevant. We are not talking about a non-Muslim American who raped a woman.

It seems certain people want to ignore certain details because they dislike it.

Who said people aren't outrage about women who get raped everyday? Nice try on your deflection.

Still trying to deflect on the current issue.
Irrelevant, or you just can't respond or.........are you ignoring certain details because you don't like what you read?? Your entire post is irrelevant.


What's the current issue again?...............................Oh, yeah, he was a Muslim chanting "Allah Akbar".
 
Old 12-10-2015, 01:35 AM
 
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All of the above? And just how do you know that?
There are past cases of women saying such lines were said to them. I also know from friends and family members.

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The issue is that the woman was raped. But people want to make it about religion.
He made it about religion. We didn't randomly add that part into the story.

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What matters to me is that a woman was RAPED. Every rape points to a bigger issue. Every child who has been and is molested/raped by a pedophile (some being family members) points to a bigger issue.
That is not what the story is about.

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You just want to latch on to the fact that he used religion as an excuse for raping a woman. You are putting the excuse before the horrendous act he committed.
I don't need to latch on anything as he used his religion to commit his crime. You just don't like it and want to ignore that detail.

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Would it have made a difference if he didn't chant? Would this have made news if he didn't chant? More than likely, no. She would just be another statistic.
We will never know.

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Old 12-10-2015, 01:39 AM
 
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Irrelevant, or you just can't respond or.........are you ignoring certain details because you don't like what you read?? Your entire post is irrelevant.
You want to ignore the detail about his religion. My post wasn't irrelevant enough for you to come along and try to deflect from the current story.

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What's the current issue again?...............................Oh, yeah, he was a Muslim chanting "Allah Akbar".
Current story: Muslim migrant kidnaps, beats and raped a female while chanting a Islamic phrase. Got it?

Last edited by Devon011; 12-10-2015 at 01:48 AM..
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