Groups Sue To Stop New Orleans From Removing Confederate Statues (enemy, generations)
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There never was a Confederate flag. Slowly being overwhelmed by the invasion and rejecting a lot of central authority, the confederacy never created a national flag. The flag that you are referring to is really the semi official battle flag of the Army of Northren Virginia. Other confederate field armies used it on occasion and also flew their own local battle flags.
Yes, I know that. Don't pick. Stay with significant factors.
Bad move by New Orleans, can't erase history.
Flag is a different story. Can't keep a flag after losing a war, but then they still think they won.
The only "problem" I have with some in the South is how proud they are of their history. I can't see why anyone would be proud of seceding from your country in the name of slavery, so you can keep enslaving people of another race, oppressing them, and seeing them as literally less than human (3/5 Compromise when slaves counted as 3/5 of a person to drive up representation in Congress in Southern slave states). I just don't see why anyone would be proud of this. Recognizing the history, okay, but pride? Nope, sorry, don't agree.
The only "problem" I have with some in the South is how proud they are of their history. I can't see why anyone would be proud of seceding from your country in the name of slavery, so you can keep enslaving people of another race, oppressing them, and seeing them as literally less than human (3/5 Compromise when slaves counted as 3/5 of a person to drive up representation in Congress in Southern slave states). I just don't see why anyone would be proud of this. Recognizing the history, okay, but pride? Nope, sorry, don't agree.
There never was a Confederate flag. Slowly being overwhelmed by the invasion and rejecting a lot of central authority, the confederacy never created a national flag. The flag that you are referring to is really the semi official battle flag of the Army of Northren Virginia. Other confederate field armies used it on occasion and also flew their own local battle flags.
The Confederacy did have a national flag. In fact it had three, as it was changed several times. There is a first National Flag, A second national flag and a third national flag. The first two are quite different from the battle flag. The third flag however incorporated the battle flag into its design. I prefer the first national flag, and this is the one you are most likely to see displayed on peoples houses or trucks. (other than the battle flag which is most popular)
The only "problem" I have with some in the South is how proud they are of their history. I can't see why anyone would be proud of seceding from your country in the name of slavery, so you can keep enslaving people of another race, oppressing them, and seeing them as literally less than human (3/5 Compromise when slaves counted as 3/5 of a person to drive up representation in Congress in Southern slave states). I just don't see why anyone would be proud of this. Recognizing the history, okay, but pride? Nope, sorry, don't agree.
Exactly. I'm fine with leaving the flag on historical sites, but it has no place on any other government property, such as state flags, licence plates, etc. The flag is that of a failed rebellion, which is not something to be proud of, and has come to represent bigotry, hatred, and ignorance. The vast majority of people who fly the rebel flag these days do not do so out for historical reasons; we all know exactly what they are instead supporting.
I get a sad chuckle out of it. Proud Americans - often those in the same part of the nation where this is happening - love to laugh at "stupid people" in other nations who can't forget past grievances and hatreds... and here they are flying the flag of a failed rebellion 150+ years after the fact. And rest assured, barring a substantial increase in education and empathy in this nation, we'll still be seeing the rebel flag flown 100 years from now, often by hicks who continue to laugh at those "stupid people" overseas who can't forget the past.
If they are going to remove them why not auction them and let the winner pay for removal. The city could use money from the auction to replace the statue or improve the park.
The only "problem" I have with some in the South is how proud they are of their history. I can't see why anyone would be proud of seceding from your country in the name of slavery, so you can keep enslaving people of another race, oppressing them, and seeing them as literally less than human (3/5 Compromise when slaves counted as 3/5 of a person to drive up representation in Congress in Southern slave states). I just don't see why anyone would be proud of this. Recognizing the history, okay, but pride? Nope, sorry, don't agree.
You see the War as a battle for Slavery but that's not how most in the South view that War. Virtually no one is proud of the history of Slavery (maybe 10K KKK members is about it). Southerners are proud of their culture and have had to stick together through a prolonged period of discrimination against the South and Southerners that has lasted for well over 100 years.
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