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Old 01-14-2016, 09:28 PM
 
Location: On the road
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What do you need a drivers license for?

Owning a car? Nope.
Driving a car? Nope.
Getting car insurance? Nope (it might be difficult or costly, but you do not need a drivers license to insure a vehicle)

Why do you need a drivers license? As a pre-requisite to drive a vehicle on the public roadway. Driving a vehicle on a public roadway is not a constitutionally protected right. Not being able to drive on the public roadway does not impede you in the exercise of any constitutional right, or even an unenumerated right, it just impedes your exercise of driving on the public roadway.
That constitution only protects your right to possess arms, it does not give you the right to parade around in public showing them off. It also provides for the responsibility that come s with that right.
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Old 01-14-2016, 11:25 PM
 
Location: annandale, va & slidell, la
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That constitution only protects your right to possess arms, it does not give you the right to parade around in public showing them off. It also provides for the responsibility that come s with that right.
Did you just make that up?
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Old 01-14-2016, 11:28 PM
 
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Did you just make that up?
Nope.
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Old 01-15-2016, 12:22 AM
 
Location: Phoenix, AZ
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Gun control is a fantastic target to increase gun sales.

Seriously, the gun manufacturers ought to cut a check to Obama as a commission on their sales.
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Old 01-15-2016, 05:24 AM
 
Location: Itinerant
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That constitution only protects your right to possess arms, it does not give you the right to parade around in public showing them off. It also provides for the responsibility that come s with that right.
To possess and carry them, says it right there after people. It also does not prohibit parading around showing them off, and we live in a legal framework that follows the doctrine of that which is not prohibited is permitted.

Can you point out where in the constitution that it provides for the responsibility that comes with that right? Specific text or reference will do.

Here's the thing, homicide is a crime, assault with a deadly weapon is a crime, assault period is a crime, criminal negligence is a crime, pretty much any activity that a gun owner acting irresponsibly performs will probably be a crime.
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Old 01-15-2016, 06:29 AM
 
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Do sheeple realize that a significant percentage of gun deaths are caused by legal gun owners?
Prove it.

There are plenty of posts on here that give FBI and CDC stats that counter your claim.
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Old 01-15-2016, 06:32 AM
 
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That constitution only protects your right to possess arms, it does not give you the right to parade around in public showing them off. It also provides for the responsibility that come s with that right.
" it does not give you the right to parade around in public showing them off."

Please explain "to keep AND BEAR arms" means to you.
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Old 01-15-2016, 09:58 AM
 
Location: On the road
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To possess and carry them, says it right there after people. It also does not prohibit parading around showing them off, and we live in a legal framework that follows the doctrine of that which is not prohibited is permitted.
And where did I say anything about prohibiting anything?

Though you raise an interesting point. That has long been the attitude of America. "That which is not specifically prohibited is permitted."

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Can you point out where in the constitution that it provides for the responsibility that comes with that right? Specific text or reference will do.
there was the assumption among the creators of the Constitution that all men held a sense of responsibility to uphold the values and respect for law and for civilization. Obviously they were mistaken to hold us in such high regard.

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Here's the thing, homicide is a crime, assault with a deadly weapon is a crime, assault period is a crime, criminal negligence is a crime, pretty much any activity that a gun owner acting irresponsibly performs will probably be a crime.
How about pure stupidity?
As of today, 21 children under 12 have been killed by accidental shootings. And not all of the 90 teens killed can be attributed to gang violence. And how many adults have been injured and killed by children handling firearms in the last few months?

How many children suffer from severe, life changing injuries due to irresponsible firearms owners?

And nearly every day we hear of someone endangering the lives of fellow citizens by improperly discharging a firearm.

I am all for our rights as responsible adult citizens to possess and carry firearms. But there has to be some way to prevent stupid, or mentally unqualified people from doing so.

And the unwillingness of intelligent people to even begin to have that conversation is disgusting.
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Old 01-15-2016, 10:04 AM
 
Location: somewhere in the woods
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Sorry.. I'm confused.. here....

What's with all the gun control talk?


PER CNN (aka liberal media)

Study: Gun homicides, violence down sharply in past 20 years

Study: Gun homicides, violence down sharply in past 20 years - CNN.com

"Gun-related homicides and crime are "strikingly" down from 20 years ago, despite the American public's belief that firearm crime is on the upswing, a study said "

because liberals, democrats and liberal politicians are under the misguided belief that if you take the firearms out of the hands of the law abiding, that you will also disarm the criminals.

plus those same people want to make it safer for criminals to rob, rape, and murder their victims.
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Old 01-15-2016, 10:05 AM
 
Location: Pacific NW
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How about pure stupidity?
As of today, 21 children under 12 have been killed by accidental shootings. And not all of the 90 teens killed can be attributed to gang violence. And how many adults have been injured and killed by children handling firearms in the last few months?

How many children suffer from severe, life changing injuries due to irresponsible firearms owners?

And nearly every day we hear of someone endangering the lives of fellow citizens by improperly discharging a firearm.

I am all for our rights as responsible adult citizens to possess and carry firearms. But there has to be some way to prevent stupid, or mentally unqualified people from doing so.

And the unwillingness of intelligent people to even begin to have that conversation is disgusting.
Yes "you hear" "you read" exactly what the media wants you to know. Several times every single day someone uses a gun to stop a crime, to defend themselves, but how often do you hear that? Almost never. How many of those hundreds of thousands every year are you willing to sacrifice?

You're perception is skewed and you're being brainwashed and you don't even know it or you don't care and are just pushing your agenda - that is disgusting.

If you really cared about children guns are the last thing you should be worried about. Virtually everything else is a bigger danger to children, even the CDC lists firearm injuries under 'other' because compared to everything else the number is so small. http://www.cdc.gov/safechild/images/...hoodInjury.pdf

Disgusting is people like you pushing the tired "save the children" BS to push more gun control when it's clear you don't care about children.
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