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Old 01-20-2016, 04:34 PM
 
Location: Florida
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My son is an Iraq War Army vet and he suffers from PTSD. It took some doing but he got his anxiety and his stress under control.

He went to college. Has a wife, 2 kids and a good job. He hasn't beaten anybody up, and he doesn't think the world owes him anything.

My father was an infantryman in KW. He was not abusive when he got back.

There is NO EXCUSE
There are different levels of PTSD.. Glad your son won the battle.. many don't.. they wind up killing themselves.
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Old 01-20-2016, 04:37 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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They don't get respect so that is why he had to beat his girlfriend? I am a VN combat vet.. I got no respect, NONE, when I got back. I got nothing but contempt and ridicule. People looked at us like they look at Muslims today expecting us to lose it and start killing them. The president when I got out was a crook and and a conniving scumbag who resigned to save his butt from a jail cell. And still I did not beat my girlfriend or my wife or my kids. I went to college, got a job, paid my taxes, and raised good kids.

This guy is a wife-beating dirt bag and his mother was a lousy one by any standard. She raised a daughter who is out getting pregnant repeatedly while preaching abstinence and a POS son who beats up women while she makes excuses for both of their sorry tails.
My husband was spat on, on several occasions, upon his return from VN. People today, welcome home returning soldiers with open arms.

I do not hold parents responsible for the behaviors of their adult children.

The timing of this most recent Palin incident is, shall we say, delicious from a media perspective.

Politicizing the incident by blaming Obama is pathetic.

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Old 01-20-2016, 04:38 PM
 
Location: Near Falls Lake
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My son is an Iraq War Army vet and he suffers from PTSD. It took some doing but he got his anxiety and his stress under control.

He went to college. Has a wife, 2 kids and a good job. He hasn't beaten anybody up, and he doesn't think the world owes him anything.

My father was an infantryman in KW. He was not abusive when he got back.

There is NO EXCUSE

Abuse is a terrible thing. I think we would all agree on that, however, would you also agree that everyone responds to stress in their life differently? While your father and son were not abusive, I lived in a neighborhood growing up, where many of the Korean vets were indeed very abusive to their wives and everyone else aournd them. I would say that more than 50% became serious alcoholics. Currently, my girlfriend's daughter-in-law (whom I know very well), works with these Iraqi vets every days. Many of them, who were fine prior to deployment, are really struggling these day. She works for the VA and can tell that getting them help is not all that easy.
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Old 01-20-2016, 04:42 PM
 
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Palin is shameful. She is an embarrassment. I don't think Trump should parade her around. Her family is always up to some trashy antics.

How about those Clintons?
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Old 01-20-2016, 04:42 PM
 
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. Palins son putting a gun to his head to shoot himself.....
Palin's son puts a gun to his head......and she hops on a plane to go to a political rally.

Go home, Sarah. Blaming Obama isn't going to fix your son. And for God's sake make sure he doesn't have access to assault rifles.
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Old 01-20-2016, 04:43 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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My husband was spat on, on several occasions, upon his return from VN. People today, welcome home returning soldiers with open arms.

I do not hold parents responsible for the behaviors of their adult children.

The timing of this most recent Palin incident is, shall we say, delicious from a media perspective.

Blaming Obama instead of holding her son responsible for his choices and behaviors is pathetic.
Yeah, even we VN guys get "thank you for your service" now. A little late. Frankly, that lack of appreciation never bothered me. What got to me then and still does after a little liquor is the utter waste and futility of all the carnage and destruction I lived through. And the fact that we went and did it again in the middle east like we, as a nation, learned nothing.

As for Ms. Palin, I don't hold her responsible either except to point out that her kids are not good citizens. My complaint is her blaming Obama (or PTSD) for her son's criminal acts.
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Old 01-20-2016, 04:43 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Different strokes for different folks.. 20 percent of all suicides are veterans, one a day, the most are from Iraq and Afghanistan.

Depression is no choice... and the behavior from them is no choice.

They are out of control on this one.. it is mental.. and many know they cannot control it and kill themselves.
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Old 01-20-2016, 04:44 PM
 
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There are different levels of PTSD.. Glad your son won the battle.. many don't.. they wind up killing themselves.



You are VERY correct.
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Old 01-20-2016, 04:47 PM
 
Location: Murphy, North Carolina
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If there's one conservative in the world that i wish the news would stop talking about and never report again, it's Sarah Palin.
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Old 01-20-2016, 04:48 PM
 
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How about those Clintons?
One daughter who is in a solid, happy marriage. No drunken rages holding an assault rifle to her head.
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