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So they don't kill themselves? Better lock them in a padded cell, then.
They can save the resources and time, by just telling them the obvious.
"Your gayness is causing your thoughts of taking your own life. You cannot be weak, if this is the path you have chosen. You are going to have to learn to deal with it, because I cannot tell everyone in your life to leave you alone and force them not to question your sexuality" If one chooses to be out in the open gay, they better be willing to wear it like a badge of honor. It is not for the weak. The weak freaks are culled from the species first.
For some odd reason, just because of my 2 statements and rebuttal the character attacks on me personally, all because of the 2 factual statements a made to reason with the truth to why suicide is greater in the LGBT communities........ you gay dudes think I hate you. That is so far from the truth. I'm trying to reason with you guys on the cause in the first place before any waste of resources is made on "counseling".
Watching the gay community is pure entertainment for myself. I could never hate anyone that makes me laugh so much and I can heckle and talk about to get more laughs. Seriously, I have no hate. I am putting myself out there to get to the reason why, before we can counsel on the solution.
I have never laughed so much at anything I hated, have you?
Wow, that's a lot of equivocation. I'll ask again: Can we agree that Suicidal Teenagers is a Bad Thing?
It simply states that anyone in a district's direct or non-direct employ is not allow to provide counsel to a minor on the topic of human sexuality, without notifying the parent(s) or guardians(s) of those minors seeking counsel, period.
Nothing about LGBT whatsoever... LGBT demands equally treatment and are getting here , in spades...
The fact it's effective immediately leads me to believe that there is precedent for liability. Minors actively engaged in some things within the spectrum of human sexuality (like it or not) may or may not be violating certain aspects of the law.
Logically (in the opinion of the State), confidentiality of details (that may violate State law) should not extend to minors without parental notification. They can still get all the counseling they want or need right?
I'm depressed/ suicidal
I'm being bullied b/c I'm LGBT
I'm pregnant
I've been **** shamed
Based on the Bill these topics can all be discussed in confidentiality until the discussion moves to 'who did (sexual)what with (or to) who'.
The Bill is intended to establish necessary guidelines to protect the State, the counselors and yes, the kids. nothing more.
It simply states that anyone in a district's direct or non-direct employ is not allow to provide counsel to a minor on the topic of human sexuality, without notifying the parent(s) or guardians(s) of those minors seeking counsel, period.
Nothing about LGBT whatsoever... LGBT demands equally treatment and are getting here , in spades...
The fact it's effective immediately leads me to believe that there is precedent for liability. Minors actively engaged in some things within the spectrum of human sexuality (like it or not) may or may not be violating certain aspects of the law.
Logically (in the opinion of the State), confidentiality of details (that may violate State law) should not extend to minors without parental notification. They can still get all the counseling they want or need right?
I'm depressed/ suicidal
I'm being bullied b/c I'm LGBT
I'm pregnant
I've been **** shamed
Based on the Bill these topics can all be discussed in confidentiality until the discussion moves to 'who did (sexual)what with (or to) who'.
The Bill is intended to establish necessary guidelines to protect the State, the counselors and yes, the kids. nothing more.
Except that many of those kids go to counselors specifically because they feel they can't confide in their parents.
When I was a kid, I was fortunate to be able to tell my parents anything, and they wouldn't really make an issue of it. For better or worse...they didn't really know/do much to help, but at least I could vent to them and that alone went a long way.
But I know too many people who tried to do the same, and were shamed, thrown out, or even assaulted.
Not everyone's parents can fix the problem. Not everyone's parents will simply be willing to sit there and listen. Not everyone can go to their parents, which is exactly why they seek counselors.
Except that many of those kids go to counselors specifically because they feel they can't confide in their parents.
When I was a kid, I was fortunate to be able to tell my parents anything, and they wouldn't really make an issue of it. For better or worse...they didn't really know/do much to help, but at least I could vent to them and that alone went a long way.
But I know too many people who tried to do the same, and were shamed, thrown out, or even assaulted.
Not everyone's parents can fix the problem. Not everyone's parents will simply be willing to sit there and listen. Not everyone can go to their parents, which is exactly why they seek counselors.
This bill defeats that purpose.
Correct!
If you are not strong enough to fight the battle, you will knowingly bring upon yourself, then you may not be strong enough to step out of the closet, without a support group hovering around your every move in life. Not everyone is going to see life like you do and there will not always be someone stronger than you around all the time to protect you from the ridicule of being much different than they are.
If suicide is your only choice, or even a choice. Your parents didn't teach you how to stand up for you, being you and wearing it all as a badge of honor, good or bad.
Except that many of those kids go to counselors specifically because they feel they can't confide in their parents.
When I was a kid, I was fortunate to be able to tell my parents anything, and they wouldn't really make an issue of it. For better or worse...they didn't really know/do much to help, but at least I could vent to them and that alone went a long way.
But I know too many people who tried to do the same, and were shamed, thrown out, or even assaulted.
Not everyone's parents can fix the problem. Not everyone's parents will simply be willing to sit there and listen. Not everyone can go to their parents, which is exactly why they seek counselors.
This bill defeats that purpose.
It does nothing of the sort. All the parents have to do is acknowledge they are going to seek help and give approval. A minor can't walk into anywhere and get treatment unless it is life threatening and they are in the ER and even then the parent or guardian has to sign off. Everywhere else will ask for a parent or guardian signature before they do anything. People need to stop seeing oppression in everything LGBT. It's starting to resemble more of a mental condition than it already is.
It does nothing of the sort. All the parents have to do is acknowledge they are going to seek help and give approval. A minor can't walk into anywhere and get treatment unless it is life threatening and they are in the ER and even then the parent or guardian has to sign off. Everywhere else will ask for a parent or guardian signature before they do anything. People need to stop seeing oppression in everything LGBT. It's starting to resemble more of a mental condition than it already is.
Unfortunately, government has placed age limits on adulthood. The parents have first ownership of the young person, before the State gets it's ownership.
If you are not strong enough to fight the battle, you will knowingly bring upon yourself, then you may not be strong enough to step out of the closet, without a support group hovering around your every move in life. Not everyone is going to see life like you do and there will not always be someone stronger than you around all the time to protect you from the ridicule of being much different than they are.
If suicide is your only choice, or even a choice. Your parents didn't teach you how to stand up for you, being you and wearing it all as a badge of honor, good or bad.
What, is this Sparta now?
I highly doubt you'd even be here today without having some form of a support network growing up. Yes, that includes your parents or guardians.
It does nothing of the sort. All the parents have to do is acknowledge they are going to seek help and give approval. A minor can't walk into anywhere and get treatment unless it is life threatening and they are in the ER and even then the parent or guardian has to sign off. Everywhere else will ask for a parent or guardian signature before they do anything. People need to stop seeing oppression in everything LGBT. It's starting to resemble more of a mental condition than it already is.
Then parents should be informed of all counseling requests, not just those relating to sexuality. Because this bill will essentially force any teens seeking counseling for LGBT issues to reveal their sexual orientation to their parents, which may not be in the teens' best interest.
It simply states that anyone in a district's direct or non-direct employ is not allow to provide counsel to a minor on the topic of human sexuality, without notifying the parent(s) or guardians(s) of those minors seeking counsel, period.
Nothing about LGBT whatsoever... LGBT demands equally treatment and are getting here , in spades...
The fact it's effective immediately leads me to believe that there is precedent for liability. Minors actively engaged in some things within the spectrum of human sexuality (like it or not) may or may not be violating certain aspects of the law.
Logically (in the opinion of the State), confidentiality of details (that may violate State law) should not extend to minors without parental notification. They can still get all the counseling they want or need right?
I'm depressed/ suicidal
I'm being bullied b/c I'm LGBT
I'm pregnant
I've been **** shamed
Based on the Bill these topics can all be discussed in confidentiality until the discussion moves to 'who did (sexual)what with (or to) who'.
The Bill is intended to establish necessary guidelines to protect the State, the counselors and yes, the kids. nothing more.
I read the bill; it sounded too fantastical for me not to read it.
Shouldn't it be the same across the board? If a minor child of yours is getting a referral to attend psychological counseling for anything, shouldn't you as the parent be notified?
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