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Old 02-02-2016, 02:01 PM
 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?featur...&v=9RABZq5IoaQ

Wow, I learned something today. This is a great video against gun control

Here is the long version if you want to see it all:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKMi023Ofro
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Old 02-02-2016, 02:27 PM
 
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How do you discuss something that bears no resemblance to fact?
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Old 02-02-2016, 02:52 PM
 
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How do you discuss something that bears no resemblance to fact?
I'm sorry I cant hear you, I have my shooting ears on
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Old 02-02-2016, 02:54 PM
 
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I'm sorry I cant hear you, I have my shooting ears on
Do you read with your ears? If so that would explain many things.
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Old 02-02-2016, 03:00 PM
 
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How do you discuss something that bears no resemblance to fact?
Sounds like you are in some different reality based on fiction. Possibly the hatred for the NRA clouds free thinking

That isn't wise

Personally, I hate guns, but support peoples right to have them legally 100%. The fact is, most likely the hatred comes from the NRA being aligned with one party and the scorned party hating them

The same is true with Republicans hating Hollywood
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Old 02-02-2016, 03:01 PM
 
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Not many realize that Harriet Tubman worked for the Union as an armed spy and scout.


From Wiki:


When the US Civil War began, Tubman worked for the Union Army, first as a cook and nurse, and then as an armed scout and spy. The first woman to lead an armed expedition in the war, she guided the raid at Combahee Ferry, which liberated more than seven hundred slaves.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harriet_Tubman
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Old 02-02-2016, 03:21 PM
 
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Sounds like you are in some different reality based on fiction. Possibly the hatred for the NRA clouds free thinking
Not in the least bit, just a firm grasp on American history as opposed to historical fantasy.

The NRA was founded in 1871 in New York City by Union veterans Col. William C. Church and Gen. George for the expressed purpose to "promote and encourage rifle shooting on a scientific basis." To do so the NRA established its educational facility on the Creed Farm in Long Island, N.Y. and the last time I checked Long Island is a hell of ways from the deep south.


Harry Alford the president of the mom and pop National Black Chamber of Commerce is not by any stretch of the imagination a historian nor is his claim based upon a single shred of historical evidence. Those are just the facts.
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Old 02-02-2016, 03:26 PM
 
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How do you discuss something that bears no resemblance to fact?
It all depends on who's facts you use.

You don't agree with any of the facts as presented by black leaders, so they must be wrong.

I see YOUR facts, and raise you the truth:

The Gun Control Act of 1968 was passed not to control guns but to control blacks, and inasmuch as a majority of Congress did not want to do the former but were ashamed to show that their goal was the latter, the result was that they did neither. Indeed, this law, the first gun-control law passed by Congress in thirty years, was one of the grand jokes of our time. -Robert Sherrill (An avid gun control advocate)

Gun Control Was - Historically - About Repressing Blacks Washington's Blog

Liberals love to cite Ghandi, but you'll never hear them repeat this:

"Among the many misdeeds of the British rule in India, history will look upon
the Act depriving a whole nation of arms as the blackest." - Ghandi

Yes, even Ghandi was for the individual freedom to own and bear arms. As a true Libertarian I'm happy to be right next to him on the political/social heat map.

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Old 02-02-2016, 03:31 PM
 
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When Malcolm X suggested that blacks should form rifle clubs, it went over like feeding chitlins to an Imam with Conservative Whites.

So these black conservatives need to put a sock in it. I've got nothing against the NRA, but outside of gun issues, most members are probably pretty hostile to any issue involving black folks.
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Old 02-02-2016, 03:32 PM
 
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It all depends on who's facts you use.
This isn't a debate between facts this is a debate between facts and the total absence of facts. Between 1865 and 1877 the role of protecting Freemen fell to the Union Army many of whom were black soldiers.

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You don't agree with any of the facts as presented by black leaders, so they must be wrong.
Ah, no I disagree with these "black leaders" simply because they are not only wrong but because the argument is a total fabrication it doesn't even rise to the level of myth!
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