What would it take to get you to vote in a presidential election? (Alabama, state government)

[WestCobb]

Originally Posted by Talkinhead

I've been legal to vote since Clinton's first run, but I have never voted because I've never lived in a state where my vote meant anything. (WA, OR, TX). I find that I'm not alone in this area, most of my friends don't vote for the same reason.

What would it take to get you to vote in a presidential election? For me, it's a popular vote or nothing.

I am the same age as you and the only presidential election I ever voted in was in 2004. I have always been very interested in politics, and I strongly advocate for my preferred candidate in every election, but I don't usually vote for the same reason you don't. There is no reason to if you live in a state that tilts heavily one way or the other. The only time I made sure I voted (and I would have voted 10,000 times if I could have gotten away with it) was to vote AGAINST Bush. Damn, that man was a disaster. I wish he would run again so I could vote against him again.

[Old Gringo]

Originally Posted by pknopp

It's not meaningless. Are you saying that if everyone voting for the blue candidate in a blue state decided their vote was meaningless and just stayed home that nothing would end up differently?

Looks like what you said, not me.

[pknopp]

Originally Posted by Old Gringo

Looks like what you said, not me.

Seems you don't know what you said then. It's a simple question. Answer it.

It's odd how hard it is to get people to answer questions about ideas they themselves present.

[ohhwanderlust]

Originally Posted by GregW

It would take a fight to KEEP me from voting.

Same here. There's no surer way to have your vote not count than to not vote at all.

[UNC4Me]

I always vote, but sometimes I abstain from voting in one race or another. Probably going to do that in the Presidential this year. No good options at all and I refuse to vote for the either of the idiots each party seems bent on nominating.

[Talkinhead]

Originally Posted by ohhwanderlust

Same here. There's no surer way to have your vote not count than to not vote at all.

But in a presidential election, your vote doesn't count in most states.

I vote, I just don't vote in presidential elections because there is simply no point. I live in WA. It blows me away that so many people really don't understand this.

[Old Gringo]

Originally Posted by pknopp

Seems you don't know what you said then. It's a simple question. Answer it.

It's odd how hard it is to get people to answer questions about ideas they themselves present.

You have the answer to your red herring.

Read it.

It's odd how some will make up ridiculous deflections and then take them self-seriously.

[phxone]

Originally Posted by Talkinhead

I've been legal to vote since Clinton's first run, but I have never voted because I've never lived in a state where my vote meant anything. (WA, OR, TX). I find that I'm not alone in this area, most of my friends don't vote for the same reason.

What would it take to get you to vote in a presidential election? For me, it's a popular vote or nothing.

There is no point in voting with the electoral college in place. That should be eliminated ASAP and replaced with a true one person one vote popular vote system. The idea that someone can become President even though more people voted for someone else is appalling. The electoral college also gives rural states power that does not match their population or contribution to the country as a whole.

[Talkinhead]

Originally Posted by Quick Enough

"What would it take to get you to vote in a presidential election?" Being an American is the best reason I can think of.

I have NEVER NOT voted even though I lived in a one party, not mine, state.

There are many things to vote for at election time, local people, issues etc.

"If you are NOT part of the solution, you are part of the PROBLEM'"

So your vote is meaningless in a presidential election, but you think it matters. OK got ya

I vote at the local and state level if it's something that actually matters, but that's it.

[phxone]

Originally Posted by pknopp

Folks like yourself should quit telling people their votes don't count. They do.

BS, no national election has ever been decided by a tiny number of votes much less one vote. The reality is that no person's vote ever really matters in the grand scheme of things.