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It says it creates half the power in the country. If you want to argue that we should be building more modern power plants as opposed to blowing up sand on the other side of the world, I'll agree with you.
Until then people are going to stay warm.
If states like New York, New Jersey, and California can supply their electricity needs with under 20 percent coal, less populous Midwestern and southern states can as well.
No one has a right to poison other people or to destroy the environment because they want cheaper electricity.
If states like New York, New Jersey, and California can supply their electricity needs with under 20 percent coal, less populous Midwestern and southern states can as well.
The fallacy of that argument has already been pointed out to you. Just because they are not creating the power there doesn't mean it isn't going there. Maybe you can figure out a way to create a Hoover Dam in Kentucky? And come up with the money.
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No one has a right to poison other people or to destroy the environment because they want cheaper electricity.
I'm not sure how many times it has to be pointed out to you. They don't want to freeze to death.
No I think someone defending all the disgusting practices of the coal industry and carting out all its propaganda is clueless.
That map includes what the states use. The map is accurate. Your petroleum industry propaganda article is really much spin about nothing.
They are building a line from a nuclear power plant here to serve NJ, up the road is coal fired plant that serves PA. I have an idea, we'll close the coal plant here in PA and offer to sell the coal to NJ.
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The fallacy of that argument has already been pointed out to you. Just because they are not creating the power there doesn't mean it isn't going there. Maybe you can figure out a way to create a Hoover Dam in Kentucky? And come up with the money.
I'm not sure how many times it has to be pointed out to you. They don't want to freeze to death.
That imported electricity is included in the calculations.
People in NY, VT, NH, MA, ME, and NJ aren't freezing to death en masse despite having real winters compared to places like KY or Alabama. And we don't appreciate breathing in the nasty pollution generated by people who are penny wise and dollar foolish.
The settlement costs are for upgrading the pollution controls on the plant. Doing a little research this particular plant is instrumental in the success of Southwest cities like Phoenix for both power and water. The power from this plant was also being exported to California for decades, perhaps they should foot the bill?
The settlement costs are for upgrading the pollution controls on the plant. Doing a little research this particular plant is instrumental in the success of Southwest cities like Phoenix for both power and water. The power from this plant was also being exported to California for decades, perhaps they should foot the bill?
Nothing but cheerleading for the coal industry from you I guess? It was also causing serious health problems for people living nearby, such as respiratory illnesses. The settlement wasn't simply to upgrade the plant, you're ignoring any details you don't want to hear.
You have some of the highest electric rates in the country that will rise even further without coal.
My bill has never been higher than $25 in the past couple years. And most of that is fees not even for the power. We're not talking about power bills that will put people under financially, we're talking a minor difference.
And we don't appreciate breathing in the nasty pollution generated by people who are penny wise and dollar foolish.
I have a plan for this. PA exports electric, coal and natural gas to other states causing a lot of environmental damage here. We'll add an environmental impact fee to the electric, natural gas and coal being exported so we can remediate your concerns. Then you can watch your electric rates skyrocket to the moon. Sound like a plan?
My bill has never been higher than $25 in the past couple years. And most of that is fees not even for the power. We're not talking about power bills that will put people under financially, we're talking a minor difference.
Vermont. yes? In 2013 Vermont's electric rate was about 45% more than the national average. About double the cost of Wyoming, Kentucky, Utah, West Virginia.....
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