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Old 02-18-2016, 05:39 PM
 
Location: North America
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Sure, it's the scientists who are greedy money grabbers. The oil and coal CEOs (like their cousins the tobacco CEOs) have absolutely no vested interest in denying climate change..
Actually Oil companies have admitted it is real several times. The only ones who seem to be keen on denying it are the people with zero understanding of Climate science. The gop.

 
Old 02-18-2016, 05:41 PM
 
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Actually Oil companies have admitted it is real several times. The only ones who seem to be keen on denying it are the people with zero understanding of Climate science. The gop.
................... you mean like the PhD climate scientist from MIT?

Dunning-Kruger strikes again.
 
Old 02-18-2016, 06:12 PM
 
Location: Upstate NY 🇺🇸
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The AGW alarmists will do anything to convince their lemmings (Including Obama) that all scientists support their hoax.
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Dr. Richard Lindzen is sick and tired of the media repeating the so-called “97 percent consensus” statistic to show just how strong the global warming agreement is among climate scientists. It’s purely “propaganda,” argues Lindzen.

“It was the narrative from the beginning,” Lindzen, a climatologist at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT), told RealClear Radio Hour host Bill Frezza Friday. “In 1998, [NASA’s James] Hansen made some vague remarks. Newsweek ran a cover that says all scientists agree. Now they never really tell you what they agree on.”

Lindzen disagreed with politicians who cite Cook’s paper to call for stricter energy regulations. He said it’s part of a political machine that’s used by scientists and politicians to direct more taxpayer dollars to pet projects.

“If you can make an ambiguous remark and you have people who will amplify it ‘they said it not me’ and the response of the political system is to increase your funding, what’s not to like?” Lindzen said.

Read more: Top MIT Climate Scientist Trashes

And not only all of that (), but who knew that science had anything to do with consensus?
 
Old 02-18-2016, 06:16 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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The AGW alarmists will do anything to convince their lemmings (Including Obama) that all scientists support their hoax.
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Dr. Richard Lindzen is sick and tired of the media repeating the so-called “97 percent consensus” statistic to show just how strong the global warming agreement is among climate scientists. It’s purely “propaganda,” argues Lindzen.

“It was the narrative from the beginning,” Lindzen, a climatologist at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT), told RealClear Radio Hour host Bill Frezza Friday. “In 1998, [NASA’s James] Hansen made some vague remarks. Newsweek ran a cover that says all scientists agree. Now they never really tell you what they agree on.”

Lindzen disagreed with politicians who cite Cook’s paper to call for stricter energy regulations. He said it’s part of a political machine that’s used by scientists and politicians to direct more taxpayer dollars to pet projects.

“If you can make an ambiguous remark and you have people who will amplify it ‘they said it not me’ and the response of the political system is to increase your funding, what’s not to like?” Lindzen said.

Read more: Top MIT Climate Scientist Trashes
Dr. Lindzen accepts the elementary tenets of climate science. He agrees that carbon dioxide is a greenhouse gas, calling people who dispute that point "nutty." He agrees that the level of it is rising because of human activity and that this should warm the climate."

Dr. Lindzen is questioning the more catastrophic predictions being made, not that global warming happening, just to what degree it is happening. Even so, it is just a opinion.
 
Old 02-18-2016, 06:26 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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................... you mean like the PhD climate scientist from MIT?

Dunning-Kruger strikes again.
Companies like Exxon that did the research, entire staffs came to the same conclusion not just one individual.


I would much rather discuss science rather than polls, suffice it to say a rather large majority consider fossil fuels as a major contributor to global warming.
 
Old 02-18-2016, 06:38 PM
 
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Actually, no.... It's Lindzen who has the reputation for being wrong most often....Ask him about tobacco and lung cancer.... More importantly, he's been wrong about nearly every major climate argument he's made over the past two decades. Lindzen is arguably the climate scientist who's been the wrongest, longest.

The Weekly Standard's Lindzen puff piece exemplifies the conservative media's climate failures | Dana Nuccitelli | Global | The Guardian
And without fail..............
 
Old 02-18-2016, 09:39 PM
 
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................... you mean like the PhD climate scientist from MIT?

Dunning-Kruger strikes again.
He doesn't work for MIT anymore.

He now works for the Cato Institute (aka: The Koch Brothers).

He has so little credibility among his peers that he has completely, publically sold out and declared himself a phony.

Richard Lindzen | Cato Institute

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cato_Institute

But of course, none of the people on this board who deny AGW are capable of processing this... or they don't understand how someone being funded to find the facts is different from someone being funded to put forward a political message.
 
Old 02-18-2016, 09:47 PM
 
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And without fail..............
...the truth emerges.
 
Old 02-18-2016, 09:52 PM
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the climate saviors should volunteer to pay more for energy.. win win.
 
Old 02-19-2016, 11:06 AM
 
Location: Dallas
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Billions of dollars are changing hands through solar, wind and other green energy companies. Climate scientists funding is dependent upon keeping AGW front and center, and when conflicting data appears either throw it out or find excuses for it. And there is another huge pile of money to be made in everything from carbon credits to reusable grocery bags. They've successfully managed to panic the public enough to get away with pretty much whatever they want. If AGW hysteria isn't motivated by greed, explain this:

Al Gore's net worth in 2000:
$1.7 million

Al Gore's net worth in 2013:
$200 million

And this is someone whose home (one of them, at least. He has several) has a bigger carbon footprint than my entire neighborhood. And would someone so convinced that rising sea levels are an imminent threat invest in beachfront property? He's a snake oil salesman who has bamboozled enough people to not only earn a huge amount of money, but he's also been awarded an Oscar, a Grammy and a Nobel Prize.

Yeah, there's a ton of money to be made exploiting AGW hysteria. And these alarmists have found a perfect industry to milk for billions of dollars -- as any criticism directed at them is quickly dismissed because its such a "noble" cause, not much different than CEOs of charities that take multi-million dollar salaries. They've found a way to exploit an issue and be completely protected from any criticism since its for the good of the earth. After all, climate change is bigger threat than global terrorism.
This is true. Almost every government program lines the pockets of the rich.
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