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Old 03-03-2016, 05:19 PM
 
Location: The South
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I had to go back to the beginning of this thread, I had forgotten what the topic was.
Should veterans from the era of an all-volunteer military be treated so reverently
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Old 03-03-2016, 06:16 PM
 
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I don't have an opinion on this, but I'm curious.

There's a lot of talk about vets in the American public square, and a great deal of reverence in some quarters. Should veterans from an era of all-volunteer military be thought of and treated quite as reverently as those who served because they were drafted? Why or why not?

What do you think of the argument that since service is entirely voluntary, veterans don't necessarily deserve as many benefits as their predecessors once they return to civilian life?

I'm not talking about care for harm that came to them during their service. That's clearly owed them. But should their voice mean any more as a socio-political group than any other?
All veterans should be treated reverently, all of them, no matter how they entered the service.
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Old 03-03-2016, 07:02 PM
 
Location: Madison, WI
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Take a break and do us both a favor. Rather than continuously interpreting and restating my position in your words, just read mine. What I wrote is what I believe and why. If you don't agree with me. That's fine. If you don't understand, I can accept that as well, but please just take my words verbatim rather than interpret them and restate them as you do, because most of the time you don't do a good job of expressing my opinion accurately. Your first sentence here again, pretty bad. Stating my position is my job. Read MY words if you want to understand me or maybe you can't understand my words, but either way, and with all due respect, I'm done trying.


I think it's all unnecessary anyway. The only thing that matters is whether or not you support the initiation of force.
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Old 03-03-2016, 10:22 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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The only thing that matters is whether or not you support the initiation of force.
Which he clearly does (post #121).

LOL.

Statism is so woven into the mind you can't see the hypocrisy from the inside.

If you take 100 situations of potential force, make sure the word "government" or "state" or "majority rule", etc is not used and then ask 4 statists if it's a force scenario they will answer with a number.

60 out of 100

42 out of 100

2 out of 100

100 out of 100

Fair enough. That't their opinion.

Then go back and insert one of those key words into the scenarios and re-ask the question and the statist will say

59 out of 100

41 out of 100

1 out of 100

99 out of 100

Logic and consistency: enemy of the statist since day #1.
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Old 03-03-2016, 10:31 PM
 
Location: All over
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ANYONE who served in the military should be treated with respect and they are owed our thanks.

They should also be given all the benefits that they EARNED (can you say VA?)
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Old 03-04-2016, 09:22 AM
 
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Which he clearly does (post #121).

LOL.

Statism is so woven into the mind you can't see the hypocrisy from the inside.

If you take 100 situations of potential force, make sure the word "government" or "state" or "majority rule", etc is not used and then ask 4 statists if it's a force scenario they will answer with a number.

60 out of 100

42 out of 100

2 out of 100

100 out of 100

Fair enough. That't their opinion.

Then go back and insert one of those key words into the scenarios and re-ask the question and the statist will say

59 out of 100

41 out of 100

1 out of 100

99 out of 100

Logic and consistency: enemy of the statist since day #1.
If this is logic, then I suppose I am the enemy, and maybe the Earth is flat, but I think the real enemy here is lack of comprehension...

To speak in terms of this new "logic," on a scale of 1 to 100, full comprehension at 100, we're talking about a 2 or 3 I think, at best.

However, I do appreciate drawing our attention to my comment #121, because as I read each of those words again carefully, they do pretty well explain my position, that's what should be most clear to the one or two most concerned or interested here, despite all the varied interpretations and inserted words thereof (and with all due respect to the array of numbers provided above).
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