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Old 07-25-2018, 10:26 AM
 
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Originally Posted by Lizap View Post
Trump will likely lose the Republican primary.
It is possible, if a strong challenger emerges (there are several I can think of, if they decide to try). Being an incumbent has advantages.

Trump needs to run because if he leaves office he becomes vulnerable to prosecution for Federal offenses. He is in it for the long haul, to quote Thomas Jefferson: "...as it is, we have the wolf by the ear, and we can neither hold him, nor safely let him go. Justice is in one scale, and self-preservation in the other."

Unfortunately what this means for the party is that if Trump does not get the party endorsement he will run as an independent and the vote will split. He has no other option because he can not take a chance at being a private citizen with his background.
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Old 07-25-2018, 10:27 AM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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MEANWHILE:
...”economists expecting new GDP at between 3.3 and 4.6. —not just strong economy but an accelerating one.
Or maybe not...

"Gross domestic product was increased at a 2.0 percent annual rate in the January-March period, the Commerce Department said on Thursday in its third estimate of first-quarter GDP, instead of the 2.2 percent pace it reported last month. The economy grew at a 2.9 percent rate in the fourth quarter. The downgrade to first-quarter growth reflected weaker consumer spending and a smaller inventory accumulation than the government had estimated last month." https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/27/fina...-2018-gdp.html

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A new Wall Street Journal/NBC News poll shows 45 percent of respondents giving a thumbs-up to President Trump – a record since he took the oath of office. For Democrats, things have only gotten worse. Not only has Trump’s approval rating gone up, but Gallup reports Americans’ satisfaction with the direction of the country recently hit a 12-year high. To repeat, the country is happier with our course today than at any time during Obama’s presidency.”
Or maybe not...
Quinnipiac has him at 38% approval:

"American voters give President Trump a negative 38 - 58 percent job approval rating, compared to a negative 43 - 52 percent rating in a June 20 Quinnipiac University Poll after the summit with North Korean leader Kim Jong-un. The president's only clear support among listed groups is from Republicans, who approve 82 - 15 percent, and white evangelical Christians, who approve 71 - 26 percent. White voters with no college degree are split 49 - 47 percent and white men are divided as 49 percent approve and 47 percent disapprove. Voters disapprove 58 - 38 percent of the way Trump is handling foreign policy and say 51 - 35 percent that he has weakened the U.S. position as leader of the free world." https://poll.qu.edu/national/release...ReleaseID=2557

(Question — how do you get a quote from an article put into the blue quote box?)[/quote]

Highlight the text that you want in the box and click the rectangle a the top with the lines through it, it's to the right of the photo icon
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Old 07-25-2018, 10:28 AM
 
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Trump is paying them off with 12 billion dollars, but what he didn't expect was that other sectors who are also hurt from the tariffs are now asking "what about us?"
Yep. It's already backfiring on him.
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Old 07-25-2018, 01:11 PM
 
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Wow!

OVER HALF of Americans polled believe Donald Trump has been compromised by Russia in some way.


https://twitter.com/prchovanec/statu...32773249101824
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Old 07-25-2018, 05:31 PM
 
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Default NBC/Marist Polls: Trump approval tanks in Michigan, Minnesota and Wisconsin

Michigan: 36% Trump Approval 54% Disapproval (-18%)
Minnesota: 38% Trump Approval 51% Disapproval (-13)
Wisconsin: 36% Trump Approval 52% Disapproval (-16%)

Generic Congressional Preference: Michigan (D+9);Minnesota (D+12); Wisconsin (D+8)

Percentage saying Trump deserves re-election: Michigan (28%); Minnesota (30%); Wisconsin (31%)

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In all three states — which hold competitive House, Senate and gubernatorial contests in 2018 — the Democratic leads are boosted by female voters, whites with college degrees and independents (though Republicans hold a 1-point edge here in Minnesota). Republicans, meanwhile, have advantages with male voters and whites without college degrees.
For those Trump true believers who are ready to yell “fake news”, here’s the latest version of the Morning Consult State by State Trump Approval Polls.

Michigan -8%, Minnesota -15%, Wisconsin -14%. Morning Consult also has Trump with higher disapproval than approval in Iowa (-4%), Ohio (-2%) and Pennsylvania (-5%).

Looking at the aggregate of the Morning Consult June Poll, Trump has a positive approval rating in 23 states that have a total of 219 electoral votes. He has a negative approval rating in 26 states with a total of 302 electoral votes. Two states are even splits between approval and approval and have a total of 17 electoral votes.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncn...mpression=true

https://morningconsult.com/tracking-trump/

I’m confused. Wasn’t the WWC devotion to Trump supposed to lock up the Midwest for the GOP from now to eternity? I guess the voters there haven’t read that script.

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Old 07-25-2018, 05:33 PM
 
Location: Near Manito
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Love those polls. Always raht awn:

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...ally-converge/
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Old 07-25-2018, 10:21 PM
 
Location: Seattle, WA
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Weren't these the same polls who said Hillary would win?
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Old 07-25-2018, 10:33 PM
 
Location: Seattle, WA
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This is an absolute troll, do you expect right wingers to read anything against the orange moron when all they need to do is follow their propaganda minister; Sean Goebbels, I mean Hannity...


Like Anderson Cooper or Rachel Maddow, right?
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Old 07-25-2018, 11:58 PM
 
Location: Old Mother Idaho
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Weren't these the same polls who said Hillary would win?
I guess things changed in two years, didn't they?
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Old 07-26-2018, 12:34 AM
 
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Default Trump's Approval Plummets in Key States....

Keep in mind he won these in 2016 and Marist is actually a well respected polling organization so go ahead, cry 'polls again' or 'fake polls/news' all you want Trumpsters!

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/fir...states-n894556

"Michigan is among three politically important Midwest states in which President Donald Trump’s job-approval rating is below 40 percent, and Democrats hold a sizable lead for the upcoming congressional midterms, according to a trio of new NBC News/Marist polls.

In three politically important Midwest states — including two that were key in deciding the 2016 election — President Donald Trump’s job approval rating is below 40 percent, and Democrats hold a sizable lead for the upcoming congressional midterms, according to a trio of new NBC News/Marist polls.
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  • In Michigan, which Trump won by nearly 11,000 votes, 36 percent of registered voters approve of the president’s job, while 54 percent disapprove.
  • In Wisconsin, which he won by about 23,000 votes, another 36 percent give Trump a thumbs up, with 52 percent giving him a thumbs down.
  • And in Minnesota, which Trump narrowly lost by 1.5 percentage points, his rating stands at 38 percent approve, 51 percent disapprove.

As for his re-election hopes? He might as well kiss that goodbye too:
  • In Michigan, just 28 percent believe he deserves re-election, while 62 percent say it’s time to give another person a chance.
  • In Minnesota, 30 percent of voters say Trump deserves re-election, versus 60 percent who disagree.
  • And in Wisconsin, 31 percent say the president should be re-elected, and 63 percent say he shouldn’t.
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