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Old 01-29-2019, 11:13 AM
 
Location: In the bee-loud glade
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Originally Posted by zentropa View Post
Given the entrenchment of attitudes about Trump, here's a question.

Between now and 2020, how many young Trump supporters will have turned voting age, vs. how many older supporters will have died? What's the math on that?
And how many will have been visited by three ghosts and repented?
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Old 01-29-2019, 11:17 AM
 
Location: New York City
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RCP average has him at 41%.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...oval-6179.html

Pretty much a non-starter for reelection.
Non starter? What are you smoking? DOES NO ONE LEARN FROM HISTORY?

Ever?

Just to refresh your memory, here is the same collection of polls prior to the 2016 election:
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...nton-5491.html

Trump was solidly down to 38% repeatedly and pre-election was at 43.6%.

Did it matter in 2016?
Will it matter in 2020?

Go ahead, bury your head in the sand. But if you were smart you'd be pushing for a more reasonable candidate than Hillary Clinton to challenge Trump. Instead what we're seeing is going even more in the wrong direction with Ocasio-Cortez, Kamala Harris, and Liz Warren
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Old 01-29-2019, 11:29 AM
 
Location: North America
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RCP has him at 40.5.
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Old 01-29-2019, 11:34 AM
 
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Yes but also what's the math on how many modern 18 year olds are responsible enough to take all the steps necessary to register and actually care to cast a vote versus older people
Since the stats show that minorities are outnumbering whites
What is the likelihood that the GOP will be working harder to gerrymander and conduct voter suppression of minority voters moving into voting age so they don't outnumber the prime Trump optimum voter-
White, no college/lower income?
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Old 01-29-2019, 11:46 AM
 
Location: New York City
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Since the stats show that minorities are outnumbering whites
What is the likelihood that the GOP will be working harder to gerrymander and conduct voter suppression of minority voters moving into voting age so they don't outnumber the prime Trump optimum voter-
White, no college/lower income?
Not sure why you are obsessed with white people being put into a minority. Does it matter or is it more a case of obsession with identity politics? Also not sure how 73% of a population is considered a minority, but I digress.

But you are sorely mistaken if you believe minorities all hate Trump. He has about 45% support with hispanics and 36% with blacks - not great, but far from zero
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Old 01-29-2019, 07:47 PM
 
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Since the stats show that minorities are outnumbering whites
What is the likelihood that the GOP will be working harder to gerrymander and conduct voter suppression of minority voters moving into voting age so they don't outnumber the prime Trump optimum voter-
White, no college/lower income?
And lower IQ.
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Old 01-29-2019, 09:26 PM
 
Location: ✶✶✶✶
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Not sure why you are obsessed with white people being put into a minority. Does it matter or is it more a case of obsession with identity politics? Also not sure how 73% of a population is considered a minority, but I digress.
"Alt-right" and MAGAism in general is identity politics, historically associated with the left, co-opted by white conservatives. So now everything is identity politics.

I generally despise identity politics in all forms.
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Old 01-30-2019, 04:22 AM
 
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Non starter? What are you smoking? DOES NO ONE LEARN FROM HISTORY?

Ever?

Just to refresh your memory, here is the same collection of polls prior to the 2016 election:
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ep...nton-5491.html

Trump was solidly down to 38% repeatedly and pre-election was at 43.6%.

Did it matter in 2016?
Will it matter in 2020?

Go ahead, bury your head in the sand. But if you were smart you'd be pushing for a more reasonable candidate than Hillary Clinton to challenge Trump. Instead what we're seeing is going even more in the wrong direction with Ocasio-Cortez, Kamala Harris, and Liz Warren
you better pray for those same 95K voters to show up in the midwest, and pray that dems don't show up like they didn't in 2016.

Just remember, Lyin Don just created the biggest democrat majority in the house since..... WATERGATE.

And the GOP still has their collective heads up their collective arses.
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Old 01-30-2019, 04:38 AM
 
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So Trump believers believe that Trump and the Republicans are going to win in 2020.

All righty then.

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Old 01-30-2019, 05:28 AM
 
Location: NC
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So Trump believers believe that Trump and the Republicans are going to win in 2020.

All righty then.

I would not count Trump out. That didn't play well in 2016. Everyone knows he's a lying scoundrel with nothing to offer (even his own Spy Deptartment confirms it), but he's a master of using the media to his advantage, to spreading lies and half-truths, and to distracting people from the reality of his dishonesty and incompetance. The media (as biased as some may think they are) gave him 2016.

DO NOT take his defeat for granted.


I think (hope) the rest of the GOP will do poorly in 2020, but even that is not a given.

I just hope the Dems can run someone who can beat Trump. You'd think it would be a given, but I don't think it is.
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