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Old 11-07-2019, 09:31 PM
 
Location: NE Mississippi
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Originally Posted by Kavalier View Post
Bloomberg talking about the dem field isn't strong enough to beat Trump. Just means Trump has a better likelihood of re-election than the Fake News cares to admit.
I saw that. Good news for GOP.
I don't really understand why Rasmussen measured a 50% approval for Trump, but they did. That leaves 50% for all the other candidates to fight over. Democrats will get about 46%.


Trump continues to attract huge amounts of money for his campaign.
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Old 11-07-2019, 11:28 PM
 
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So Trump's approval rating is higher that Obama's at the same point in his presidency.

yes and no.


obama's approval was 42.1, trump's is 43.7


but obama's approval/disapproval spread in -9.3 to trump's -10.5
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Old 11-08-2019, 09:21 AM
 
Location: Knoxville, TN
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The polls in 2016 were actually quite accurate, Trump didn't win the popular vote he won the electoral college. Polls reflect the popular vote.
Oh so the polls were based on popular vote and not who would actually win?

That's a new one.
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Old 11-08-2019, 09:29 AM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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Oh so the polls were based on popular vote and not who would actually win?

That's a new one.
Only to someone devoid of common sense.
A national poll is NOT going to tell what particular states go for what particular candidates.
Do you really not understand that?
Really?
REALLY?


Ken
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Old 11-08-2019, 09:32 AM
 
Location: Knoxville, TN
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Only to someone devoid of common sense.
A national poll is NOT going to tell what particular states go for what particular candidates.
Do you really not understand that?
Really?
REALLY?


Ken
Guess not.

Just so I'm clear, now all the polls were pointless because they existed to predict the popular vote???

Okay, sure.

Are you people really still that butthurt over 2016? My God.
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Old 11-08-2019, 09:43 AM
 
Location: Living rent free in your head
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Oh so the polls were based on popular vote and not who would actually win?

That's a new one.
Maybe this explanation will make more sense to you

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U.S. presidents are chosen not by the national popular vote, but in the individual Electoral College contests in the 50 states and Washington D.C. In calculating probable outcomes, election predictors generally treated those 51 contests as completely separate events – as unrelated to one another as a series of 51 coin tosses.

But that’s not how elections work in the United States. Voting trends that appear in one state - such as a larger-than-expected Republican shift among rural voters - tend to show up in other states with similar demographic make-ups.

And that’s what happened Tuesday: The election models calculated the probabilities of a Clinton win that turned out to be high, because they viewed each state too much in isolation. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKBN1343O6
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Old 11-08-2019, 09:43 AM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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Guess not.

Just so I'm clear, now all the polls were pointless because they existed to predict the popular vote???

Okay, sure.

Are you people really still that butthurt over 2016? My God.
No, there are not "pointless". They are generally pretty accurate. But the electoral college system means that there is always a chance that the DISTRIBUTION of votes will offset the POPULAR vote. Why do you think politicians pay attention to particular swing states?


I'm not "butthurt" about 2016. Those Bernie supporters who sat out the election because Bernie didn't get the nomination got EXACTLY what THEY deserved. Unfortunately the rest of us got it too, but that's the way the system works. They point is, Trump BARELY won. A mere 70,000 votes split between 4 key - and normally Blue - states gave him the win, when Hillary actually had nearly 3 million more votes nationwide. That electoral win happened in part because disgruntled Bernie supporters sat out the election or voted 3rd party in protest. I really doubt anything like that will happen this time around, because the Left is united in their disgust of Trump and the GOP in general. One needs only look at how those same key states voted in 2018 - it WASN'T GOOD for the GOP.

Ken
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Old 11-08-2019, 09:47 AM
 
Location: Nowhere
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The polls in 2016 were actually quite accurate, Trump didn't win the popular vote he won the electoral college. Polls reflect the popular vote.
Take out the 10 million illegals who voted and Hillary didn't win s---.

Real talk.
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Old 11-08-2019, 09:49 AM
 
Location: SE Arizona - FINALLY! :D
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Take out the 10 million illegals who voted and Hillary didn't win s---.

Real talk.
Why don't you name those 10 million?
And while you are at it, prove they're illegals.
We'll wait.


Ken
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Old 11-08-2019, 09:53 AM
 
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Why don't you name those 10 million?
We'll wait.


Ken
We should probably find something to occupy ourselves with in the meantime.

We've had a fair amount of illegal voting here in North Carolina.

There was that absentee ballot harvesting scam that Republicans have been running for years now and finally got caught at.

We've had several who were caught voting in place of dead relatives. One woman claimed she was fulfilling her dead mother's dream to vote for Trump.

And, of course, we have the illegal gerrymandering that Republicans have been fighting tooth and toenail to keep.
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