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The guy is already suffering the extreme consequences. Yet many here feel the need to pile on the ridicule, as if the sentence imposed is not enough.
We can understand how and why he's in this situation and quite rightly say that he brought it on himself, while still recognizing the fact that the guy is now faced with immense suffering and feel sorry that he's going to go through that for the next 15 years, if he survives at all.
And recognizing that North Korea and everything it stands for is abhorrent is not excusing the dude.
The two are not mutually exclusive.
Someone from the State Dept will end up going over there to negotiate his release..just like they did with all the other snowflakes that traveled to oppressed countries with their American ideals and got themselves in trouble.
Who's not compassionate? Of course we all feel sadly for Warmbier, his family, and friends. One can be compassionate while also respecting the reality of the situation and the consequences... Their country. Their laws. Their courts.
I dunno, let's see....
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Originally Posted by Jimmyp25
I think he received an appropriate sentence for his stupidity.
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Originally Posted by stburr91
That's what you get for going to N. Korea.
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Awwww...poor baby. You'd think by the time you are in college, you'd know not to steal. I applaud the harsh punishment, as it certainly deters crime. We can learn a few things from this crazy leader.
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I thought I read somewhere that someone from the US was going to pay him a lot of money to bring that banner back?
15 years in a North Korean labor camp - he's a dead man. Not many people can survive that, let alone a soft college student. What an idiot that guy was.
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Anyone that is stupid enough to go to that country deserves a sentence like that . As well as for any American that wants to adventure into Iran
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Yep. The 'special little snowflake' thought that just because he's an American he's immune from having to obey foreign laws in a foreign country.
Wake up call. It's a big bad world out there, and NK and other countries don't have the same freedoms we have in the US. How can anyone be a University of Virginia (very selective admissions) undergrad and not know that?
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Originally Posted by MetroWord
Meh, take his stupid behind out of the gene pool.
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Originally Posted by convextech
I have no sympathy for anyone that goes to a third-world country such as this. You don't even have to do anything wrong, they can lock you up for any reason at all. They get what they deserve for going in the first place.
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Originally Posted by Toyman at Jewel Lake
Their country, their rules. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. See ya in 15 years.
Someone from the State Dept will end up going over there to negotiate his release..just like they did with all the other snowflakes that traveled to oppressed countries with their American ideals and got themselves in trouble.
Okay. Perhaps they will. Who knows?
Regardless, that does not negate that I feel bad for him and every other poor bastard doing hard time in a North Korean jail. That includes North Koreans who looked at a picture af that despotic madman sideways and got a lifetime trip to the Gulag for their trouble.
It's disgusting. I take no glee in that kind of horrendous misfortune.
Someone from the State Dept will end up going over there to negotiate his release..just like they did with all the other snowflakes that traveled to oppressed countries with their American ideals and got themselves in trouble.
They are already working on his release but I find it strange they did nothing to help that Marine that made a wrong turn and ended up in a Mexican prison a year or so ago.
Yeah, he traveled to a particularly tyrannical foreign country, didn't obey their laws, and was prosecuted for that. Do we feel sadly that this happened to him? Yes. Did he get what he deserved? Yes.
They are already working on his release but I find it strange they did nothing to help that Marine that made a wrong turn and ended up in a Mexican prison a year or so ago.
Yeah, he traveled to a particularly tyrannical foreign country, didn't obey their laws, and was prosecuted for that. Do we feel sadly that this happened to him? Yes. Did he get what he deserved? Yes.
See? They're not mutually exclusive.
Why are you speaking for everyone? It's obvious that many in this thread don't feel sadly for him.
And it's my contention that nobody "deserves" 15 years hard labor in a North Korean jail for taking a sign. Is that the unfortunate consequence of his action? Yes. Does he deserve that punishment? No.
To say someone deserves it is to agree that it's a just punishment. Do you think North Korea's penal system is just?
(Note that I'm not disputing their right to it, as I know you're going to twist my words, as usual. Yes, their country their rules. Are their punishments outrageous human rights abuses? Also yes.)
I doubt that he will get released. Obama just tried slapping more sanctions on North Korea for their last missile test...
Maybe if the great leader allows Dennis Rodman to come and play some basketball with him . He will release him, if rodman can beat fatty at a game of b-ball.
I understand that. I just haven't read anywhere, or seen anything, that says he was just taking a picture.
I see. I have heard conflicting reports. I did the the alleged video of him ripping down the poster. However, the video is of poor quality and I could not say for certain it was the American college student.
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