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Syrians have no history of causing any trouble in this country. And i'm sure that like most Arabs, they sympathize with their own people. The flipside though is that they have too much to lose in THIS country to become radicalized.
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I have already stated the US, unlike Europe, has had no problem with Arab immigration. Like my mutual fund provider always reminds me "past performance is no guarantee of future results" particularly when you shortcut the process. My wife is an immigrant, from a nation where there is Muslim unrest, the Philippines, I am aware of the paperwork and time delays immigrants go through to insure they are assets to our country. This process sometimes takes years. I seriously doubt if the refugees go through the full process and given the turmoil in that area I think we should just say no to the refugees. Germany will take them.
They don't have to be. How about 95%? Does that make the argument any less valid. Did cigarette smoking kill ALL smokers before FDA demanded a warning label?
Again, just no. Non Muslim terrorists have killed more people than Muslim terrorists on US soil since 9/11. Fact.
And you have the percentages right about terrorists but are wrong about who is who. Muslims make up 5 percent of terrorists, not 95.
Like I said you got McVeigh and the left will probably be trumping him for the next century meanwhile we have people in the ME trying to obtain nuclear material.
It's not just Mcveigh. Last year a guy shot up a planned parenthood clinic in Colorado Springs. Another shot up a black church. Since 1980, 94 percent of all terrorist attacks have been by non Muslims. My source? The FBI.
I'm so glad someone started this thread, especially since I'm a Bosnian Muslim and it really gets me going when I read: "you are all the same". What people don't get is that it's not so much the religion itself as it's the difference in cultures and traditions. For example, in Bosnia, most people who actually practice the Islamic religion are the older generations. The younger one, HAVE A CHOICE, I made this upper-case letters cause most non-muslims, actually don't believe that there is Muslims in the world who CAN CHOOSE whether they want to pray five times a day,read the qur'an, wear a head scarf and whatever else comes with the religion. That's where the differences come in: Iran, for example, has the sharia law,which means they can not choose, if they want to do any of those, they have to, by law. As for, some Arabic countries or nations, they have no laws saying they have to live by the Islamic religious law, but most of them choose to for reasons only known to them. And I respect that, mostly because Islam is one of the hardest religions to follow. Now, does me not wearing a head scarf and not praying or going to a mosque make me a less of a muslim, than someone who does all of these, that depends on who you ask. If you ask me and most Bosnian Muslims, we would say no. First and foremost, we believe in being harmless, well intentioned human beings. But if you ask someone from Arabic nation, they would probably say that we are not even Muslims, because we don't give such a high importance to the religion. As for the terrorism part, realistically thinking, NO religion or religious book (not Qur'an, Islam, Bible, Judaism, Catholism,Christianity) teaches hate towards other human beings or that we should kill each other just because we have different beliefs or opinions. Islam has been around for a very long time and If that's what Islam teaches, where were all these terrorist organizations or groups years ago? Decades ago? Why didn't they carry out attacks 40,50,70 years ago? Why now? Why are they claiming they are carrying out these horrific acts in the name of the Islam religion? I wanna know the answer to that question more than any of you on this thread. Again, Islam does not in any way teach hate or approve of killings and yes I did read the Qur'an many times and NO I'm not trying to defend anyone or anything I have nothing to defend, I'm just stating what most Muslims would say.
What is BS? It's a list of every terrorist attack since 9/11 with the facts about who committeed each and why. Where is the untruth?
Because it cherry picks data and leaves out the ones that don't fit. Like the two Muslim men who were the D.C. snipers. It strategically leaves out 9/11. It leaves out a lot of things.
It's not just Mcveigh. Last year a guy shot up a planned parenthood clinic in Colorado Springs. Another shot up a black church. Since 1980, 94 percent of all terrorist attacks have been by non Muslims. My source? The FBI.
On March 3, 2003, an unknown number of individuals placed two one-gallon jugs filled with kerosene near a McDonald’s restaurant in Chico, California, and vandalized the restaurant with graffiti. The graffiti included statements such as “Animal Liberation Front,” “Meat is Murder,” and “Species Equality.” Two communiques were discovered claiming responsibility for the attack. Robert Brooks and Harjit Singh Gill were convicted in the Eastern District of California for making false statements to a grand jury in connection with the attack, and, in June 2005, received sentences of a $500 fine and 36 months probation, respectively.
I ain't really that worried about them kind of attacks.
Because it cherry picks data and leaves out the ones that don't fit. Like the two Muslim men who were the D.C. snipers. It strategically leaves out 9/11. It leaves out a lot of things.
The DC snipers were pre 9-11. The stats come from the FBI. There is nothing strategic at all. It's a simple list of all terrorist incidents on US soil. The facts don't support your bias.
I'm so glad someone started this thread, especially since I'm a Bosnian Muslim and it really gets me going when I read: "you are all the same". What people don't get is that it's not so much the religion itself as it's the difference in cultures and traditions. For example, in Bosnia, most people who actually practice the Islamic religion are the older generations. The younger one, HAVE A CHOICE, I made this upper-case letters cause most non-muslims, actually don't believe that there is Muslims in the world who CAN CHOOSE whether they want to pray five times a day,read the qur'an, wear a head scarf and whatever else comes with the religion. That's where the differences come in: Iran, for example, has the sharia law,which means they can not choose, if they want to do any of those, they have to, by law. As for, some Arabic countries or nations, they have no laws saying they have to live by the Islamic religious law, but most of them choose to for reasons only known to them. And I respect that, mostly because Islam is one of the hardest religions to follow. Now, does me not wearing a head scarf and not praying or going to a mosque make me a less of a muslim, than someone who does all of these, that depends on who you ask. If you ask me and most Bosnian Muslims, we would say no. First and foremost, we believe in being harmless, well intentioned human beings. But if you ask someone from Arabic nation, they would probably say that we are not even Muslims, because we don't give such a high importance to the religion. As for the terrorism part, realistically thinking, NO religion or religious book (not Qur'an, Islam, Bible, Judaism, Catholism,Christianity) teaches hate towards other human beings or that we should kill each other just because we have different beliefs or opinions. Islam has been around for a very long time and If that's what Islam teaches, where were all these terrorist organizations or groups years ago? Decades ago? Why didn't they carry out attacks 40,50,70 years ago? Why now? Why are they claiming they are carrying out these horrific acts in the name of the Islam religion? I wanna know the answer to that question more than any of you on this thread. Again, Islam does not in any way teach hate or approve of killings and yes I did read the Qur'an many times and NO I'm not trying to defend anyone or anything I have nothing to defend, I'm just stating what most Muslims would say.
Good information.
Still, I wonder why the practitioners of Islam are not more vocal in condemning violence against innocents and declaring IS the real infidels ?
Why the Gulf States, Egypt, and Turkey sit by while their neighboring countries tear themselves apart and small numbers of their citizens go to fight in jihadist brigades killing, beheading, engaging in sex trafficking, etc ?
Why young, sometimes educated men, leave their orderly homes and go wage Jihad ?
What is the fascination with such a brutal, repressive group ?
Doesn't a Sunni standing by while a brutal repressive sect wage a terror campaign constitute tacit support? I think this is how many in the "West" view the issue.
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