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The DC snipers were pre 9-11. The stats come from the FBI. There is nothing strategic at all. It's a simple list of all terrorist incidents on US soil. The facts don't support your bias.
The D.C. Snipers were active in October 2002. And there have been a lot more incidents than what was listed, i.e., cherry-picking.
The DC snipers were pre 9-11. The stats come from the FBI. There is nothing strategic at all. It's a simple list of all terrorist incidents on US soil. The facts don't support your bias.
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The D.C. Snipers were active in October 2002. And there have been a lot more incidents than what was listed, i.e., cherry-picking.
Still, I wonder why the practitioners of Islam are not more vocal in condemning violence against innocents and declaring IS the real infidels ?
Why the Gulf States, Egypt, and Turkey sit by while their neighboring countries tear themselves apart and small numbers of their citizens go to fight in jihadist brigades killing, beheading, engaging in sex trafficking, etc ?
Why young, sometimes educated men, leave their orderly homes and go wage Jihad ?
What is the fascination with such a brutal, repressive group ?
Doesn't a Sunni standing by while a brutal repressive sect wage a terror campaign constitute tacit support? I think this is how many in the "West" view the issue.
I have often argued (and am yet to be refuted) that ISIS is truly Islamic.
According to the quran, which is the immutable word of god, Mohammed was the perfect muslim.
Now if you read quran/hadith, you will find that Mohammed raped, slaved and conquered.
ISIS is simply emulating the life of mohammed.
Therefore, no believing muslim can challenge the theological basis of ISIS.
The DC snipers were pre 9-11. The stats come from the FBI. There is nothing strategic at all. It's a simple list of all terrorist incidents on US soil. The facts don't support your bias.
And it includes people doing minor property damage. It's like including ***** slapping with murder.
He was Nation of Islam, but after 9/11 changed his name to Muhammad and he and a teenager killed ten people. He told authorities he wanted to set up a terrorist training camp in Canada. If WestCobb's link can attribute attacks on "right-wing" ideology because of a statement made, then Muhammad definitely qualifies, and his body count added to the other Islamic extremist attacks in that link puts it at 55 to 48, Muslim vs. "Right-Wing". But why does the link leave out 9/11? Because if we are talking about Islamic terrorism in the United States, it seems deceptive to leave out the largest terrorist attack on U.S. soil.
That probably depends on the "Arab": the Christian kind as a group are kinda the same as the rest of us; Muslim Arabs have a worse rep, even IN the Middle East.
Muslim Arabs have a worse rep in THIS country? Where? I've never seen or heard that.
The Christian kinds are "kinda the same as the rest of us?"
Who is "the rest of us?" I'm not sure that you and i are even alike or share the same values at all based on stuff you've posted.
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I have already stated the US, unlike Europe, has had no problem with Arab immigration. Like my mutual fund provider always reminds me "past performance is no guarantee of future results" particularly when you shortcut the process. My wife is an immigrant, from a nation where there is Muslim unrest, the Philippines, I am aware of the paperwork and time delays immigrants go through to insure they are assets to our country. This process sometimes takes years. I seriously doubt if the refugees go through the full process and given the turmoil in that area I think we should just say no to the refugees. Germany will take them.
Nah...i'm in total disagreement with you on this. I see no reason to single out Arabs. There simply is no good reason for the prejudicial scrutiny.
People aren't mutual funds.
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Jews were slaughtered by Nazis. Christians put an end to that. Along with 20 million or so atheists.
Ummmm....no. The Nazis were ALL raised as Christians, and weren't required to denounce their religion just to join the Nazi Party. Christians put an end to the war, hence an end to the Holocaust. There was no intentional effort by Christians to end the Holocaust itself even when they knew it was going on. Let's not revise history.
Ummmm....no. The Nazis were ALL raised as Christians, and weren't required to denounce their religion just to join the Nazi Party. Christians put an end to the war, hence an end to the Holocaust. There was no intentional effort by Christians to end the Holocaust itself even when they knew it was going on. Let's not revise history.
Just deal with the truth...it's ok.
So every person is acting on their faith just because they were taken to church as kids? Sure, that means we have tons of Christian murderers, rapists, and thieves because they were baptized at some point in their lives? In reality, what happens is many of them "find" religion in prison after the fact. I am sure many of them mean it too. But whatever they did before was not because they were Christians at some point in their lives, it was in spite of it.
And if there is a hell, surely Nazis are burning in it.
So every person is acting on their faith just because they were taken to church as kids? Sure, that means we have tons of Christian murderers, rapists, and thieves because they were baptized at some point in their lives? In reality, what happens is many of them "find" religion in prison after the fact. I am sure many of them mean it too. But whatever they did before was not because they were Christians at some point in their lives, it was in spite of it.
And if there is a hell, surely Nazis are burning in it.
The Nazis didn't quit going to church after their childhoods were over. They remained lifelong Christians. Again, becoming a Nazi didn't require and abdication of one's Christian faith. Whether ones wants to admit it or not, the Holocaust was dreamed up by Christians. So to credit Christians for ending it is extremely illogical.
When we had slavery in this country, Christians were the main (and pretty much the only) participants. They taught slaves Christianity (a different perverted form of it to brainwash the slaves) and used Christianity as a justification that they could actually find support for in the Bible. What was that "in spite" of?
So you're free to invoke the No True Scotsman fallacy, but Christians have behaved just as badly if not worse than any other religious group in history.
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