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That hijab rule is forced on people. Women don't want it. By kowtowing to the rule you are not "respecting" the people. You are part of the enforcement regime. Besides, hijab is for Muslims. Where does it say French citizens must follow Islam? When that Muslim delivery guy refused to deliver beer, every liberal stood up and cheered for him but now Air France crew has to suck it up and do as told. If Air France is so concerned about not hurting mullahs, may be they should send an all-Muslim crew to Tehran.
AFAIK, the airline did not tell their female crew members that they HAD to wear a hijab. Just told them what to expect if they did.
Maybe you should fly to Iran and refuse to follow the dress code there if it is such a big deal to you. Maybe the crew members are just muttering "the ****ing things I have to do for this job."
Edited to add - about those muslim truck drivers - what I said was that the employers should obey existing law and afford "reasonable accommodation" if they could - same as the employers should do for, say, a JW.
the covering of the hair is a distant second. the much bigger concern (IMO) is how many flight attendants will be accused of being spies and thrown in prison. Some things are just not worth it. As I said perviously, I would find another job.
Why on earth would you assume that is a common occurrence? If a member of a flight crew is that unintelligent that they set themselves up for that .......enough said.
Flight crews are among the most worldly folks there are as they see more foreign countries in their careers than any other. They are usually well versed through corporate education in avoiding those activities in foreign countries that would set them up for prosecution or persecution.
Tourists to those countries with questionable human rights are another matter entirely as they should, if even halfway intelligent, enact research and behave in a manner to forestall an event such as you describe.
I reference the retarded mincompoop that is now doing hard labour in N.Korea for attempting to steal a poster off a wall.
Changing jobs because you might be required to wear a headscarf if walking about the streets of Iran seems very stupid when all one has to do instead is comply with local customs or confine yourself to your hotel on a one night lay-over. How many flight crew would actually wander about the streets of Iran alone in any case?
Observing local customs is no different in the U.S. where it could be assumed no self respecting flight crew from Air-Italia, SwissAir, Air Isreal or any other country, is going to wander out of O'Hare and hail a cab to East Garfield Park at 11pm to get a gander of local gang life.
Q: So why hasn't this been the policy all along for every airline in that travels to the ME?
A: Because Islam is becoming more and more radicalized over time and the West is acquiescing again.
I've traveled quite a bit and I do my best to respect the local culture when I'm in any country. But this is about control. The more we give, the more they take. It would be smarter to simply tell them we will respect their culture, but it's not our culture and we are not going to require our women to cover up. After all, we don't make their women take their scarfs off when they land in NYC, even though forcing a woman to wear a scarf is not an American value.
You're going to have to ask "every airline that travels to the ME" because I am not on the board, nor do I run their companies.
How do you know this wasn't suggested in the past, but no one ever whined about it until now? The point of my post was to illustrate that this is nothing new - telling people that acceptable clothing in certain countries should be respected and not to disrespect the people of that country by wearing attire that they would deem highly inappropriate, has been going on for a very long time. You ARE going to THEIR country. It doesn't matter if YOU don't like it, it's THEIR country.
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I think warning their paying customers is a good thing. AFAIK, no airline could or would force passengers to comply.
Little different, IMO, than warning paying customers what the weather is like before they land.
Nice of you to belittle it like it's just a warning about the weather. It was far more than that, but you go on and pretend you know how it was done.
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That hijab rule is forced on people. Women don't want it. By kowtowing to the rule you are not "respecting" the people. You are part of the enforcement regime. Besides, hijab is for Muslims. Where does it say French citizens must follow Islam? When that Muslim delivery guy refused to deliver beer, every liberal stood up and cheered for him but now Air France crew has to suck it up and do as told. If Air France is so concerned about not hurting mullahs, may be they should send an all-Muslim crew to Tehran.
Again, it does not matter if YOU don't like it, that is not YOUR country. It is THEIR country, and if you are going to go there, you need to respect what that country wants, just as you would be expected to respect the customs and rules of ANY country.
I'm beginning to see why so many other countries say Americans are obnoxious travelers.
Again, it does not matter if YOU don't like it, that is not YOUR country. It is THEIR country, and if you are going to go there, you need to respect what that country wants, just as you would be expected to respect the customs and rules of ANY country.
Were hijab banned in the US and Iran Air flew here, should their flight attendants remove their hijabs? I have a feeling you'd be the first to invoke multiculturalism and ask for "reasonable accommodations" so they can break our law. In fact, Iran Air does fly to Paris where hijab IS banned. Are they flight going hijabless in Paris? I seriously doubt it. The point is we are being pushed around all over the world, not the least of which by the Islamic world.
Why would non-Mooslims have to wear rags on their head? Then Mooslim women should not be permitted to wear their masks and rags here. When in Rome...
When in the United States we tend not to believe the government should proscribe how you dress beyond women hiding their nipples and both sexes hiding their sexual organs.
Were hijab banned in the US and Iran Air flew here, should their flight attendants remove their hijabs? I have a feeling you'd be the first to invoke multiculturalism and ask for "reasonable accommodations" so they can break our law. In fact, Iran Air does fly to Paris where hijab IS banned. Are they flight going hijabless in Paris? I seriously doubt it. The point is we are being pushed around all over the world, not the least of which by the Islamic world.
We are talking about a scarf, here.
France bans veils that cover the face, not scarves that cover hair.
Women in Iran do not wear the burka/ veil.
You are likely confusing Iran with long time US ally, Saudi Arabia.
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