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View Poll Results: What are you, politically?
Liberal, not libertarian 7 24.14%
Conservative, not libertarian 3 10.34%
Moderate, not libertarian 6 20.69%
Libertarian 13 44.83%
Voters: 29. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 04-15-2016, 05:39 PM
 
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Im curious to see how other people on this forum feel with respect to Liberatarianism; do you identify as one? If not, are you liberal, moderate, conservative? I'm personally very much libertarian, albeit one with a "bleeding heart", ie I dont believe that people in poverty should have to rely on other people's generosity; in other words, while I support things like low taxes, abolishing the electoral college, and legalizing marijuana, I do not believe in getting rid of welfare.

Its my personal opinion (feel free to disagree) that leaning too far to either the right or the left compromises one's libertarianism, and that is why there is only one option for 'Libertarian' in the poll. Anyway, how do you all think of Libertarianism? Is it the epitome of freedom, or crack-pot craziness?
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Old 04-15-2016, 05:46 PM
 
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Libertarians are the most intelligent people on the planet.

If you have any doubts about that, just ask a Libertarian.
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Old 04-15-2016, 05:53 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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libertarians are freedom lovers.

Libertarians are just statists like the Democrats and Republicans.
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Old 04-15-2016, 05:56 PM
 
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libertarian here. And I define libertarianism as adherence to the non-aggression principle, nothing more.
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Old 04-15-2016, 05:57 PM
 
Location: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
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I'm a Libertarian, and I had a long long long journey to Libertarianism. I do tend to border on minarchist and a full anarchist. I do consider myself a minarchist, but I'm very very very close to the anarchist spectrum of things. I'm not a full blown anarcho-capitalist, but I'm close.
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Old 04-15-2016, 06:01 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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I'm a Libertarian, and I had a long long long journey to Libertarianism. I do tend to border on minarchist and a full anarchist. I do consider myself a minarchist, but I'm very very very close to the anarchist spectrum of things. I'm not a full blown anarcho-capitalist, but I'm close.
Reminds me of the old joke...

Question: “What’s the difference between a minarchist and an anarchist?"

Answer: "Six months”

You'll get there. Leave the dark side and come over to the light!

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Old 04-15-2016, 06:08 PM
 
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Definitely identify MUCH much more with any libertarian candidate I've ever seen as compared to any Democrat or Republican. I also just feel the need for a viable 3rd party so it makes me want to support them more because I think it can truly bring some balance into the picture. Right now all we have in politics is an us vs. them and if you don't agree with the other side you must be a racist, sexist, idiot that hates your country and hates your fellow citizens. Maybe I'm overly optimistic but I think any viable third party would start to help that situation, particularly the libertarian party since it caters some to the social policies of the Democratic leaning folks and the economic policies of the Republican leaning folks.
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Old 04-15-2016, 06:19 PM
 
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Definitely identify MUCH much more with any libertarian candidate I've ever seen as compared to any Democrat or Republican. I also just feel the need for a viable 3rd party so it makes me want to support them more because I think it can truly bring some balance into the picture. Right now all we have in politics is an us vs. them and if you don't agree with the other side you must be a racist, sexist, idiot that hates your country and hates your fellow citizens. Maybe I'm overly optimistic but I think any viable third party would start to help that situation, particularly the libertarian party since it caters some to the social policies of the Democratic leaning folks and the economic policies of the Republican leaning folks.
Amen to that. #GaryJohnson2020

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Old 04-15-2016, 06:20 PM
 
Location: Taos NM
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Libertarians have good ideas, and have some valid points. But the ones who find the source of all problems to be caused solely by the government (the "force" in their language) annoy the crap out of me.
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Old 04-15-2016, 06:27 PM
 
Location: Sector 001
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Pure libertarian can't work because of human nature... eventually all the politicians get bought out by the big corporations and you end up the same or worse than we are now. Without environmental regulations some corporations and individuals will just do whatever they can get away with. Look at home some individuals embezzle money from charitable organizations to see human nature at work.

It's great in theory, not so great in practice. A moderate amount of laws are required with extensive checks and balances to counterbalance human nature, actually to counterbalance survival of the fittest... animal nature...

Conservatives and libertarians seem to extoll the virtues of corporations and free enterprise, but big corporations and big government are not to be trusted... thus it's up to us to provide checks and balances with our votes, in theory.

I used to be closer to anarchist, but looking at human nature as I have, I've come to side more with globalists.. except for the one issue where they are race/culture mixing and force feeding us refugees.. I don't understand what they are doing there....
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