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Old 04-20-2016, 07:19 PM
 
Location: North of South, South of North
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As most facilities in this country have been separated by biological sex, what biological sex should a Transgender shower with?

Their biological sex peers or their identity gender peers?

Should the non-transgender citizens have their voices heard and considered in this decision or is it only the Transgender community's opinion that is of concern?

I feel the "bathroom" issue is not all that difficult to deal with, but the locker rooms and showers are much more difficult situations to navigate.......especially with so many buildings in existance built with shall I say "outdated" layouts. It would be quite an expense for tax payers and consumers to upgrade.

 
Old 04-20-2016, 07:44 PM
 
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So as the bathroom issue goes, the showers follow.

In Oregon if any normal boy claims he "identifies" as a female he is free to walk into a girl's shower in a public school. This is how far this issue has sunk.
 
Old 04-20-2016, 07:46 PM
 
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Originally Posted by North_Pinellas_Guy View Post
As most facilities in this country have been separated by biological sex, what biological sex should a Transgender shower with?

Their biological sex peers or their identity gender peers?

Should the non-transgender citizens have their voices heard and considered in this decision or is it only the Transgender community's opinion that is of concern?

I feel the "bathroom" issue is not all that difficult to deal with, but the locker rooms and showers are much more difficult situations to navigate.......especially with so many buildings in existance built with shall I say "outdated" layouts. It would be quite an expense for tax payers and consumers to upgrade.
I don't think it's an issue. Most public facilities have individual shower stalls now.
 
Old 04-20-2016, 07:53 PM
 
Location: My little patch of Earth
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Brilliant!

Now......what DOCTOR do they go to?

Do the 'HE' drivers get 'SHE' driver rates and vice versa?

Gawd, the list is endless.

Do male only clubs have to admit . . . does the DAR have to take in . . .Jesus, my mind just got boggled!
 
Old 04-20-2016, 08:14 PM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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Everywhere I have been to with locker rooms or shower rooms has stalls with doors or curtains. No nudity seen.
 
Old 04-20-2016, 08:15 PM
 
Location: Austin
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I don't think it's an issue. Most public facilities have individual shower stalls now.
That may be true, but a little girl after swim practice or the woman after exercise class doesn't get dressed in the shower stall.

If my kids were still small I wouldn't let them go in a public locker room or restroom without me these days.
 
Old 04-20-2016, 08:29 PM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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That may be true, but a little girl after swim practice or the woman after exercise class doesn't get dressed in the shower stall.

If my kids were still small I wouldn't let them go in a public locker room or restroom without me these days.
After swim classes my son doesn't shower and change, in fact none of the kids do. They tend to leave in their swim suits or toss their shorts over their swimsuits. And at every gym I have been to in the last ten years there are large shower stalls with plenty of room to put your clothes while showering and get dressed in. Women aren't running around naked in the locker room.
 
Old 04-20-2016, 08:31 PM
 
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So as the bathroom issue goes, the showers follow.

In Oregon if any normal boy claims he "identifies" as a female he is free to walk into a girl's shower in a public school. This is how far this issue has sunk.
We haven't had an issue with this, seems like boys aren't trying to use the womens showers to justify any issue or alarms.
 
Old 04-20-2016, 08:34 PM
 
Location: Austin
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After swim classes my son doesn't shower and change, in fact none of the kids do. They tend to leave in their swim suits or toss their shorts over their swimsuits. And at every gym I have been to in the last ten years there are large shower stalls with plenty of room to put your clothes while showering and get dressed in. Women aren't running around naked in the locker room.
Your experience is not my experience.
 
Old 04-20-2016, 09:04 PM
 
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Your experience is not my experience.
Or mine. Plenty of naked and partially naked women in the locker room at my gym.
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