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Old 05-10-2016, 10:44 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Why was there a need for the 19th Amendment? Would the 14th as interpreted today, have not needed the 19th Amendment? Why was the 19th Amendment needed if the 14th encompassed that right.

Did it fall under the 10th Amendment(there were states and communities that did allow women to vote in state and local elections ""they were property owners"") before the 19th amendment was passed.
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Old 05-10-2016, 10:48 AM
 
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Congress passes the 19th Amendment - Jun 04, 1919 - HISTORY.com

Here you go, this gives you a brief history on the 19th Amendment and why it was needed and passed.
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Old 05-10-2016, 12:38 PM
 
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Congress passes the 19th Amendment - Jun 04, 1919 - HISTORY.com

Here you go, this gives you a brief history on the 19th Amendment and why it was needed and passed.

Why was an amendment not needed for the LGBT bathroom deal?
Why was an amendment not needed for illegal aliens to have anchor babies?
Why was the Civil rights act not an amendment? Why the need for it, if the 14th said it?

If it did not give women the right to vote, it surely didn't grant the rights it has today.
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Old 05-10-2016, 12:41 PM
 
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Why was an amendment not needed for the LGBT bathroom deal?
Why was an amendment not needed for illegal aliens to have anchor babies?

If it did not give women the right to vote, it surely didn't grant the rights it has today.
What amendment was passed for the LGBT bathroom deal? I am not familiar with this specific amendment....

I am not sure what is so confusing for you about the 19th Amendment.
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Old 05-10-2016, 12:44 PM
 
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What I am getting at... According to our government today, those things were never needed, as the 14th amendment covered it.
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Old 05-10-2016, 12:47 PM
 
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What I am getting at... According to our government today, those things were never needed, as the 14th amendment covered it.
Maybe so, they could have used the 14th Amendment, but at the time felt there was a need for a specific Amendment.
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Old 05-10-2016, 12:50 PM
 
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What amendment was passed for the LGBT bathroom deal? I am not familiar with this specific amendment....

I am not sure what is so confusing for you about the 19th Amendment.

That is just it. They are using the 14th Amendment as the basis for the bathroom bill being unconstitutional.

If that is the case and the same basis used, there was no need for the 19th amendment. The 14th made discrimination against women unconstitutional. Yet there the 19th amendment stands and there is no amendment to the US. Constitution to take the power from the States(like the 19th Amendment did) for making the bathroom bill unconstitutional.

Why was it not unconstitutional to discriminate against women to vote, before the 19th amendment.
Seems there would need to be an amendment to the US Constitution, to take the power from the states, to dictate who uses a bathroom.
Why the need for the Civil rights act to determine who uses a bathroom, if the 14th amendment makes it unconstitutional to discriminate.....
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Old 05-10-2016, 12:53 PM
 
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Maybe so, they could have used the 14th Amendment, but at the time felt there was a need for a specific Amendment.

That makes no sense, if the courts could make the call like they do today.
The Supreme Court determined the Federal Government had no authority and an amendment was needed.
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Old 05-10-2016, 12:57 PM
 
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That is just it. They are using the 14th Amendment as the basis for the bathroom bill being unconstitutional.

If that is the case and the same basis used, there was no need for the 19th amendment. The 14th made discrimination against women unconstitutional. Yet there the 19th amendment stands and there is no amendment to the US. Constitution to take the power from the States(like the 19th Amendment did) for making the bathroom bill unconstitutional.

Why was it not unconstitutional to discriminate against women to vote, before the 19th amendment.
Seems there would need to be an amendment to the US Constitution, to take the power from the states, to dictate who uses a bathroom.
Why the need for the Civil rights act to determine who uses a bathroom, if the 14th amendment makes it unconstitutional to discriminate.....
Again, at the time of that Amendment passing, they wanted to have it be a specific Amendment. So what if they could have used the 14th Amendment instead.
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Old 05-10-2016, 01:02 PM
 
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^^ That is actually correct.^^


If the 14th was as far reaching as the current SCOTUS likes to pretend, there wouldn't have been a need for a 19th Amendment.


No one today interprets the law as it is written. The actual text of the law.
Today it is what someone in a black robe, thinks it should say, but clearly doesn't.
Legislating from the bench, brings you precedent law over Constitutional law, making it stick.
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