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Old 05-10-2016, 06:26 PM
 
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Do you think K-12 grade should be free?
Yes
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Old 05-10-2016, 06:33 PM
 
Location: Texas
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No. Not free.

But the price shouldn't outpace inflation.

And if we want the "European model" so bad, high school should be way more rigorous and college shouldn't be so freakin easy to get into and easy to pass.

People learn nothing with all the dumbing down that was a result of the combination of letting everyone in and the pressure to pass a certain percentage of each class.
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Old 05-10-2016, 06:38 PM
 
Location: San Diego
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I don't know about that. Many law enforcement agencies in the State prefer have your associates then go for your bachelor's with them. Same for nursing. Firefighters. Psych jobs. LPNs. Automotive Techs. Airplane Mechanics. Pilots. Respiratory therapist. Radiology Technicians.

People can still benefit from associates degree or take classes to advance into a bachelor's program.
I live next to a College. Being an in State resident I can take a full class load for a couple hundred a semester, then transfer. It's ridiculous to hit tax payers for extended education. We already pay for 12 years of it. 13th grade doesn't guarantee a job that pays well.
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Old 05-10-2016, 06:43 PM
 
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Do you think K-12 grade should be free?
It isn't.
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Old 05-10-2016, 06:44 PM
 
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The taxpayers of course. It's been done prior to the 1980s and only paying a small portion of higher education. The cost to tax payers would be minimal since the goverment already gives put federal money to colleges that is equivalent to the current cost in a year to pay for students attending community colleges maybe less.

College in the US was not free prior to the 1980's. Good grief.
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Old 05-10-2016, 06:46 PM
 
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I think that there should be a low-cost/Tuition-free option for general college education at the state and local colleges.
The first course should be on how to get an real education without mortgaging your frigging life for it.
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Old 05-10-2016, 06:49 PM
 
Location: Swiftwater, PA
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Yes

For who should it be free? Should kids that have no interest in college get free college?


Lets say that you succeed in life and make one great salary because of your 'free' education. Would you be willing to financially provide others with their 'free' education? Would you feel the same if they were lazy and only wanted to attend college to party? How long would you be willing to pay for somebody else to be educated - would you still support their quest for the sheepskin if they failed year after year? Would you be willing to send lazy kids to Harvard or MIT? How much would you be willing to pay for somebody else - money doesn't grow on trees; somebody always has to pay.


My feeling is, that if our kids have a vested interest in their own future; then they will have better academic performance.


PS You want a 'free' education; here is one 'free' education: https://www.khanacademy.org/. It is available to everyone right now and we are not paying kids to party!
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Old 05-10-2016, 06:50 PM
 
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Yes, tuition should be free or close to free on a grade based system. Incentives to keep grades up for free or reduced education would be a benefit to this country as a whole.

There is nothing wrong with making this more a part of the college system.

Free? Who will pay for teachers, books, lab equipment, computers, printers, etc...

SOMEONE has to pay for it. THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A "FREE" EDUCATION.

Education is a set of goods and services and those goods and services have a cost. Teachers don't teach for free. Books aren't free. This idea of getting a "free" education is total nonsense.

And if it's free for the students then what real value does it have for them? They have no skin in the game.

Bad idea.
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Old 05-10-2016, 06:58 PM
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Old 05-10-2016, 07:59 PM
 
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Free? Who will pay for teachers, books, lab equipment, computers, printers, etc...

SOMEONE has to pay for it. THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A "FREE" EDUCATION.

Education is a set of goods and services and those goods and services have a cost. Teachers don't teach for free. Books aren't free. This idea of getting a "free" education is total nonsense.

And if it's free for the students then what real value does it have for them? They have no skin in the game.

Bad idea.
Do you realize that K-12 public schools are tuition free, yet the teachers, staff, and equipment still get paid for. So no, I am not saying free cost when I say free tuition.....you understand that, right?

As for skin in the game, money for tuition isn't the only way to have skin in the game, requiring students to meet grade requirements is how you make sure a student has skin in the game because this is about education.
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