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If America is a Christian nation (or once was), is it a Catholic nation or a Protestant nation? If Protestant, is it an Episcopal or a Baptist nation? Christianity looks very different depending on your denomination.
The battle over America's religious heritage usually has atheism and non-Christian religions front and center, but if America was to heed Franklin Graham, Ted Cruz, and many in the GOP's advice and become a Christian nation, most of the people offended would be Christians whose beliefs different from the denominational theology chosen by the government. This is why separation of church and state benefits everyone, even Christians.
Those who want to see America become a Christian nation are usually Southern Baptist or members of some other fundamentalist denomination. What makes them think a "Christian America" would be based on the Baptist approach to the Bible and morality when "born-agains" account for less than 30% of Americans who consider themselves Christians? I have a feeling people like Franklin Graham and Ted Cruz would backpedal fast if the government embraced the type of Christianity that a majority of American Christians embrace.
Thoughts?
There are some really good documentaries that have been done, "America The Story of Us" and "God in America" are two that I have found online that help to answer these questions, that I want to mention, just in case any one is interested.
Freedom of Religion is priority number one written in our Constitution of old. Before people came to this country there was the Church that told people what to think, how to think and collect their money. Founding Fathers saw the corruption in the church (absolute power, corrupts absolutely) and since people were establishing their own personal relationship with God all ready, which was something the Preachers, Priests and Imams did not want people to believe they could achieve, the Founders believed it was their duty to establish the first freedom for this country to be that of ... Freedom of Religion.
Which makes us a nation founded on the principles of freedom of ... choice. Which is also to be applied towards our government, which too is an organization that can become a controlling entity if given absolute power over the people. (however, this thread is about a Christian Nation)
Franklin Graham and Ted Cruz (a long with those liken to them) would not backpedal if the government embraced Christianity ... because the government is made up of people who like the rest of us have a choice in what they want to believe and they also give money to the church of their choice. And even though people would like for it to happen ... a person can not make decisions that go against their beliefs, not in good conscience any way. What can be done that has been done is to try and make sure, one person, does not dominate over the other. Or in this case, one church, one form of government can not dominate over the others.
If all religions in this country came together and formed a pac, they would be unstoppable. However, we won't see that happen, because that would take people believing in one thing and getting along with one another long enough to see success.
The Church (does not matter of which faith) was stripped of its power to rule through the power of the people to read, interpret and establish their relationship with God; what this nation did, that none other at the time had done, was to insure its freedom from taxation.
The people split the church up, the Founding Fathers insured, it would never come together again ... not in this country.
This country those who believed in God, did not turn their backs on their beliefs; all any one needs to do is read any document they forged to know that is true. They took the power from the Church and put it where it belonged ... in the God of the people. The choice is yours, if you want to believe it ... or not.
People in this country keep whittling on it though and we can loose that freedom of choice ... in the blink of an eye. (the path to destruction knows many roads)
Then I'll ask again, what part of the New Testament is it that features humans owning humans as a 'Christian' principle?
Or, perhaps their alleged religious beliefs took a backseat to what principles they believed a country should be based on?
You do know that slavery still exists right. People still do what they want to do and get by with it as it matters not to man's laws for some.
There are people in present day (U.S.) that are held captive, because they believe there is no one they can turn to that will believe their story and help them. Some have escaped and told what happened. I read stuff so that is how I know about them. Imagine my surprise to learn that in present day, the person standing next to me in the check out, may be someone's slave.
So, we now judge what was in the hearts of people that lived 3,000 years ago (our ancestors) that they had the audacity to do what is still continued today? What happens with it, after we've done that.
I've read the recount in the Bible. I've read where people were bought and sold so as to pay family debts and that some, because they had a conscience, gave them family chores and made them family members.
What was passed on to a country was commerce in the slave trade, that was (is) practiced by every country around the globe. That's why there was (is) money in it.
People around the globe are just non stop and it matters not as to what century we live in or how much time has passed ... some things are just never learned.
Why do you think some Republicans are turning to Trump? Some Republicans are tried of the strong-hold staunch Christians have on America.
I doubt America will ever be like Saudi Arabia, unless we keep viewing them as the reason we have oil and continue killing our own resources.
Did you know the left fully supports drilling oil in other places and never here in America.......what kind of religion is this?
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mo .... Trump is (Obama) strong on immigration, which won him popularity right off and imho, is why he has kept it, even though what flies out of his mouth is nasty ... (can't find a better word)
In SA, the women are to be escorted by a male member of their family. I'm looking (in the news this last week) and I see where some of how they think ... it can (in time) happen here.
Not to mention the 'face' of America is changing due to the decline in population.
Do you know what I am thankful for ... knowing I will not live long enough to see it all come to a head.
It may pretend to be one, but I don't think a lot of its policies are "really" because of that. Besides, that label seems to be quickly losing hold. Would such a nation really promote gay marriage?
America is no longer a Christian nation, and for the most part- doesn't want to be. This is reflected in the attitude of "do whatever you want, and if anyone tries to hold you responsible- kick and scream and accuse them of being hateful and bigoted! Due to apathy, ignorance and lack of spine- America will one day be an Islamic nation.
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Why do you think some Republicans are turning to Trump? Some Republicans are tried of the strong-hold staunch Christians have on America.
Staunch stronghold?
Can you give specific examples of how that has affected the country?
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