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It's a tragedy. It truly is. All of America mourns the men who fell at Benghazi. They fell in service to our country.
American soldiers and diplomats put their lives on the line, and they know their lives are on the line.
This. Bad stuff happens in dangerous corners of the world. The enemy is smart and motivated and resourceful and sometimes they will land a punch. And you can always - always - find a course of action that could have prevented it, as long as you do so afterwards. I - unlike many of my fellows on what is considered "left" in US politics - do not blame GWB one iota for 9/11. There were probably hundreds of threats, and one turned out to have teeth. Right now, in the CIA/FBI/DHS offices, are the details of the next successful attack. Buried in ten thousand other leads. It's the nature of it.
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Ambassador Stevens didn't die in gunfire, he was not executed. He died in a safe room of smoke inhalation. He died because he wanted to serve the United States and because he loved the Libyan people and believed that he could make a difference in the future. I don't think anyone understood the risks better than he did, but he was a very brave man, a man of great integrity, and a man of great compassion.
Bears repeating. What is more, the Libyans who were trying to build a working nation out of the rubble and the Gaddhafi power vacuum had the greatest respect and liking for him.
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But the legacy of Ambassador Stevens is that he reached out, he extended a helping hand, he wanted to understand, he wanted the world to see that Americans are not enemies. I think this should be the legacy of Benghazi as well. That America is not an enemy.
It's shameful that it was turned into a dog, and pony show, but at least it played a role in Hillary's email/server crimes becoming public.
If Hillary is indicted, it will be worth every penny spent on that crap show the Republicans called investigations.
Republicans put party over country all the time. The Benghazi committee was supposed to be about what happened in Benghazi. But since Hillary wasn't found at fault your type moves their goals to getting Hillary indited because she used a personal email server. Listen to yourselves...
Republicans put party over country all the time. The Benghazi committee was supposed to be about what happened in Benghazi. But since Hillary wasn't found at fault your type moves their goals to getting Hillary indited because she used a personal email server. Listen to yourselves...
"Republicans put party over country all the time.
And the dems whined and cried until a Special prosecutor, a dem no less, was appointed in the Valerie Plame case.
How did THAT turn out?
Hell, the SP KNEW going in who was the rifts to use her name in public, yet he CONTINUED for 2 YEARS.
Please, don't insult us by insinuating it is ONLY the repubs.
And evidence of huge mishandling, negligence, disregard for lives of Americans...feel free to add to that list of failures due to political priorities.
Republicans put party over country all the time. The Benghazi committee was supposed to be about what happened in Benghazi. But since Hillary wasn't found at fault your type moves their goals to getting Hillary indited because she used a personal email server. Listen to yourselves...
Well, she has a pattern developing in Corruption Inc.
All these comments about either party putting themselves before country and/or willing to let Americans die in order to further their agenda are simply ridiculous at best, an insult to our country as well. I mean, I know we have little-to-no trust in our electoral process and those who rise to become our elected representatives, but look any of these people in the eye and honestly tell them they lied and schemed in order to further themselves regardless the lives of fellow Americans. I too have my criticisms, but these sorts of claims are grounds for treason, life in prison.
The problem is that we have two parties that tend to divide us in terms of philosophy, politics, but as the exchange of opinion about all that deteriorates into who is smarter than the other, the insults and questions of integrity are thrown into the mix until the exchange becomes little more than a mud slinging fest, childish and outlandish.
The positive is that two competing parties serves to keep the other in check, and we are lucky to have a system or process in which each party is taken fully to task when questions of leadership, competency and protocol are called into question. The investigation into what happened in Benghazi, much like the 9/11 Commission, helps to identify where corrective action may help us going forward. If it is partisan politics that helps get us there, so be it, but ultimately we have little choice but to trust in the final conclusion(s) as specified in these investigative reports.
Accordingly, criminals go to jail, or they are deemed not criminals. "Innocent until proven guilty" after all. More likely they are mistakes made along the way, not acts of treason, and corrective action implemented. We move on.
No stopping the living room arm chair self-appointed judges who prefer to pretend they know better of course, no stopping that any better than those who put their political ideology and bias before reasoned critical thinking, but enough already with the gratuitous claims of lies, criminal activity and acts of treason. These are difficult times and difficult circumstances and no one can expect we will manage those sorts of challenges without casualties, but to suggest these people elected and/or appointed to protect America are actually, intentionally, doing the opposite?
And evidence of huge mishandling, negligence, disregard for lives of Americans...feel free to add to that list of failures due to political priorities.
Does this mean you were desperately hoping for an indictment?
And the dems whined and cried until a Special prosecutor, a dem no less, was appointed in the Valerie Plame case.
How did THAT turn out?
Hell, the SP KNEW going in who was the rifts to use her name in public, yet he CONTINUED for 2 YEARS.
Please, don't insult us by insinuating it is ONLY the repubs.
I'm not insinuating nothing. This thread is about Benghazi not Valerie Plame. Own up to the partisan witch hunt that cost tax payers over 7 million dollars and didn't find anything close to what your type claimed was there...
All these comments about either party putting themselves before country and/or willing to let Americans die in order to further their agenda are simply ridiculous at best, an insult to our country as well. I mean, I know we have little-to-no trust in our electoral process and those who rise to become our elected representatives, but look any of these people in the eye and honestly tell them they lied and schemed in order to further themselves regardless the lives of fellow Americans. I too have my criticisms, but these sorts of claims are grounds for treason, life in prison.
The problem is that we have two parties that tend to divide us in terms of philosophy, politics, but as the exchange of opinion about all that deteriorates into who is smarter than the other, the insults and questions of integrity are thrown into the mix until the exchange becomes little more than a mud slinging fest, childish and outlandish.
The positive is that two competing parties serves to keep the other in check, and we are lucky to have a system or process in which each party is taken fully to task when questions of leadership, competency and protocol are called into question. The investigation into what happened in Benghazi, much like the 9/11 Commission, helps to identify where corrective action may help us going forward. If it is partisan politics that helps get us there, so be it, but ultimately we have little choice but to trust in the final conclusion(s) as specified in these investigative reports.
Accordingly, criminals go to jail, or they are deemed not criminals. "Innocent until proven guilty" after all. More likely they are mistakes made along the way, not acts of treason, and corrective action implemented. We move on.
No stopping the living room arm chair self-appointed judges who prefer to pretend they know better of course, no stopping that any better than those who put their political ideology and bias before reasoned critical thinking, but enough already with the gratuitous claims of lies, criminal activity and acts of treason. These are difficult times and difficult circumstances and no one can expect we will manage those sorts of challenges without casualties, but to suggest these people elected and/or appointed to protect America are actually, intentionally, doing the opposite?
At what point do we get real?
Treason has a very narrow and specific definition. Lying & grandstanding for political gain isn't one of them... The partisan Benghazi committee didn't commit treason but the Republican members defiantly should be ashamed of themselves... Party over country just like I said...
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