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Old 07-24-2018, 05:38 PM
 
Location: Falls Church, Fairfax County
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I'm sorry to report to "conservatives" that 10's of thousand of "Mooossseeleeemmss" are right now working in Silicon Valley, Pacific NW and other hot spots creating all the stuff you use to complain about Muslims....
Well there are a lot of people that do not like that in this country. They have hurt the American programmers by lowering price and there are many that got their H1B visa's through fraud, of course not all that fraud is on the employee side. Many of these foreign programmers are not really that good, but they do work for cheaper.
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The fact that people have to pick on a smart school child is crazy...bonkers. It reminds me of Who is American Episode 2......
Nobody is picking on this kid. This kid took a commercial clock that was disassembled, had some other parts added to it that had no function other than to make it look more sinister and put it into a case and brought it to school and did not act with good faith. Here is what U.S. District Judge Sam A. Lindsay had to say:


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“First, other than wholesale conclusory and speculative statements, Plaintiff does not allege any facts from which this court can reasonably infer that any IISD employee intentionally discriminated against A.M. based on his race or religion,”


“This is not a situation in which a person standing in Principal Cummings’s shoes can take unnecessary risks,” “On the one hand, by not taking action he is faced with the gruesome prospect of death or serious injury of persons had the device actually been a bomb and exploded; and. On the other hand, he is faced with a federal lawsuit for denial of a student’s constitutional rights because the device turned out not to be a bomb.
“Woe onto the principal who fails to act on a potential threat that later becomes a reality!”
I agree with the judge.



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Old 07-24-2018, 05:49 PM
 
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I said that he should not be allowed back into the country and a couple of Google lawyers said that he is a US Citizen, so I ask "And?" but they would not answer what they meant. The fact is that he is a naturalized US Citizen and there is a denaturalization process. It is not why they would denaturalize him, but that being a naturalized citizen does not make you immune. The steps would be denaturalize, revoke greencard do not approve VISA.
Lies

As I spelled out here

My very first post in the thread was my asking you
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On what grounds can he be denied entry?
You have no answer for that
As a naturalized citizen he cannot be denied entry.
You are absolutely unaware of any reason for him to be denaturalized.
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Old 07-24-2018, 06:10 PM
 
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The little stooge realized what a crap hole he was getting sent to and the kids dingus jerk of a father didn't get the payoff he hoped he'd get. I hope he gets his ass beat in school.
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Old 07-24-2018, 08:49 PM
 
Location: New York Area
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You both stated that he was a citizen in response to a post as that is where it ended. The fact is that he is a naturalized citizen and there is a process called denaturalization. The burden is on the two of you to prove that he cannot be denaturalized not for me to prove that he can.
Though I side with you and repped you the burden of proof is on you. I'm an attorney and I've never heard of anyone being stripped of citizenship except maybe for fraud in the application.
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Old 07-25-2018, 12:21 AM
 
Location: Staten Island, NY
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If I'm not mistaken there was a multi-million dollar judgment issued against Clock boy and his militant Father. If they come back to the states the judgment will be enforced.
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Old 07-25-2018, 05:44 AM
 
Location: New York Area
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If I'm not mistaken there was a multi-million dollar judgment issued against Clock boy and his militant Father. If they come back to the states the judgment will be enforced.
Easier said than done.
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Old 07-25-2018, 06:25 AM
 
Location: Falls Church, Fairfax County
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Lies

As I spelled out here

My very first post in the thread was my asking you

You have no answer for that
As a naturalized citizen he cannot be denied entry.
You are absolutely unaware of any reason for him to be denaturalized.
He can be denaturalized, have his green card revoked and visas denied. Call a lawyer if you wish clarification of the process and pay for your post K12 education.
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Old 07-25-2018, 06:51 AM
 
Location: Falls Church, Fairfax County
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Though I side with you and repped you the burden of proof is on you. I'm an attorney and I've never heard of anyone being stripped of citizenship except maybe for fraud in the application.
Fraud is exactly what they should go after. am not saying they will find something but someone that says "He is a citizen" should know that he is a naturalized citizen and that denaturalization exists. They have used it in the past to deport "communist sympathizers" and with the amount of data they have on these new immigrants it just takes a determined President, a sympathetic judge and some laziness in the application. It is amazing what government employees can find when their careers depend on it.


The US may also be able to prevent their boarding aircraft headed to the US on the far side or possibly even not renew their passports.



I personally have a lot of friends that will not travel to the US anymore because the rules are stricter, they deny entry for what we feel are odd reasons and they go through the phones of even citizens.


I know all of you are immigration lawyers that know that Camp X-Ray has been closed for years.
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Old 07-25-2018, 07:42 AM
 
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Fraud is exactly what they should go after. am not saying they will find something but someone that says "He is a citizen" should know that he is a naturalized citizen and that denaturalization exists. They have used it in the past to deport "communist sympathizers" and with the amount of data they have on these new immigrants it just takes a determined President, a sympathetic judge and some laziness in the application. It is amazing what government employees can find when their careers depend on it.


The US may also be able to prevent their boarding aircraft headed to the US on the far side or possibly even not renew their passports.



I personally have a lot of friends that will not travel to the US anymore because the rules are stricter, they deny entry for what we feel are odd reasons and they go through the phones of even citizens.


I know all of you are immigration lawyers that know that Camp X-Ray has been closed for years.
Of course denationalization exists, no one denies that. If "a determined President" and "a sympathetic judge" starts looking at your record, they might find some reason to throw you in Jail as well Not saying they will but they might.

Regarding your friends who do not travel to US anymore, its their decision. I am not sure what they are trying to hide but there are thousands of immigrants who travel in and out of US everyday without any problem. US is the country of law and order, if your friends did not break any law why are they afraid to travel ?
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Old 07-25-2018, 07:43 AM
 
Location: IL
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now fully trained in making ieds....great
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