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Old 06-30-2016, 08:07 AM
 
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You would think that would be a more preferable weapon for a domestic terrorist or mass killer because it could do far more damage and kill far more civilians than an AR-15.

I wonder why domestic mass killers just don't use tanks? Or why so few use fully automatic machine guns?

Oh that's right, THEY'RE ILLEGAL. (Or highly regulated)

Why don't liberals learn anything?

Tanks are not illegal; neither are fully automatic machine guns. They are just regulated and reserved for the rich and power to use only.

It would cost over $5000 to own a machine gun with lengthy paperwork. This alone makes it a toy for the rich and powerful. No common people can afford such a price tag but you don't hear the Democrats crying foul on this one because .... right, Democrats don't want poor people to own machine guns or any guns. Rich people? Buy all your want.

How many rich people except for UBL do you know would go postal? Religious fanatics are often poor and uninformed.
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Old 06-30-2016, 08:11 AM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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Yes but it took 5-6 attackers.

The Orlando shooter killed 49 by himself with an assault rifle.


And?


What's the cut-off (no pun intended) then? No more than 5 kills per assailant? Who decides?
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Old 06-30-2016, 08:13 AM
 
Location: The Island of Misfit Toys
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1. Tanks are very expensive to buy, maintain and operate. They also require multiple crew members, separate drivers/gunners ect.

2. Tanks are big, loud, slow and telegraph their approach to anyone within earshot or visual range......bombs are cheaper, more concealable, only require one person and arguably just as effective.

3. Not that many tanks for sale out there really and the ones that are are from military surplus....no private companies out there making tanks, because there is no market for private tank ownership .

4. Life is not the movies.

Fully automatic machine guns are overrated and misrepresented in Hollywood.
They burn through ammunition very quickly in real life. A 30 round magazine is empty in a matter of a few seconds, and the continuous recoil causes muzzle rise that makes you miss at least half of your shots.
So a shooter would have to carry a lot more ammo to hit less targets. Even the military doesn't use the full auto setting as much as you would think. It's mostly an intimidation and suppressing fire tool in combat situations.
Machine guns are more useful when there are people shooting back.
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So using your points, at the very least, you're telling me, we've regulated and banned all the weapons that are less ineffective at killing people, and left the best ones for killing more available to the public?

So in other words, were regulating all the wrong weapons. And allowing access to criminals to the perfect weaponry for the job.

So a machine gun can, in other words, keep swat teams with guns at bay but terrorists and mass killers aren't interested in getting their hands on them? They're not interested in any guns that can switch from semi to fully automatic? No interest in an M16 at all? It's not the regulation, it's just they have no interest in a weapon that can serve a dual purpose?
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Old 06-30-2016, 08:14 AM
 
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Yes but it took 5-6 attackers.

The Orlando shooter killed 49 by himself with an assault rifle.
Yes but McVeigh killed 100+ and not a single bullet fired.
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Old 06-30-2016, 08:14 AM
 
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Why are there no Jihadist attacks where no Muslims are present?
Much like Tanks.
Maybe the shank has a point when you put it like that
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Old 06-30-2016, 08:15 AM
 
Location: San Diego
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You just edited.

You don't understand the subject and started a topic making a huge error! You don't know what you are talking about.

As mentioned you can buy tanks, I seen privately owned ones that still are operating, freaking awesome by the way, google it in your area, the owners sometimes lets the public see it on display for a fee(hey you can't blame them for making money in return you are entertained).

You can make your own projectiles, not effective in a military campaign, but effective enough against non armored targets at less than 50 yards. Google it, but you will end up on a DHS list, don't worry it is almost weird not to be on a list these days.

Other people have mentioned the other reasons as well.

You don't know what you are talking about.
You don't know what you are talking about.
You don't know what you are talking about.

If you don't know what you are talking about, how can you expect to convince the other side? We just laugh, and don't take you seriously. Like the firearm debates.
That moment when one knows they look like an idiot and frantically edit
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Old 06-30-2016, 08:15 AM
 
Location: The Island of Misfit Toys
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And?


What's the cut-off (no pun intended) then? No more than 5 kills per assailant? Who decides?
The point, it's not as efficient as a gun. There's another case in China where a guy stabbed 20 school children and they all survived.
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Old 06-30-2016, 08:16 AM
 
Location: louisville
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I got all the humor I need from yet another thread started from a juvenile perspective. Always good for a laugh... But only for so long.
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Old 06-30-2016, 08:17 AM
 
Location: East Lansing, MI
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But high regulation apparently does....


No, it doesn't. Look at the stats and read the crime reports during the Brady Bill years. ZERO attributable reduction in gun violence.
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Old 06-30-2016, 08:17 AM
 
Location: PHX -> ATL
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No one is taking my hand ban idea seriously. It's the only for sure way to end mass killings. Hands must be stopped!
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