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Old 07-11-2016, 07:50 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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I recall years ago, I don't know if it has changed, teachers were at the lower end of the GPA scale when put against ALL other graduates.
As a group, they have the lowest SAT scores.

Here's The Nation's Easiest College Major - CBS News

It's no secret that every other department on campus refers to Ed School course requirements as the "crayon curriculum."
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Old 07-11-2016, 07:53 AM
 
Location: NJ/NY
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If conservatives cared more about things other than money maybe the leftists would not have a stranglehold on the educational system. While you were off making all that money these ones who cant do have been indoctrinating your kids on how everything is wrong with capitalism and America.
One can care about money and other things simultaneously. It's not either/or. And money and capitalism is not evil either. Without money, there is no innovation. Money is needed to start charitable foundations. Money is needed to expose your children to other cultures, The Louvre, the pyramids rather than the inside of a McDonalds. And money is needed to send ones children to these great colleges where all of these liberal professors work.
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Old 07-11-2016, 07:55 AM
 
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OMG, NO! If you don't parrot your prof's beliefs, your grade gets dinged.

Forget even trying to question or challenge the prof's position on ANYTHING, if you want to graduate with a decent GPA.
You have taken my words out of context and have provided a response that does not correlate to what I said.
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Old 07-11-2016, 07:57 AM
 
Location: Sacramento, Ca
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Yes.


Yes, that's what I said. People who grow up in white areas, go to school for a long time, but have little first hand experience of other cultures will tend to be liberal by default. But more experience may change their views and move them away from liberalism.
This has been my experience as a non teaching school employee for many years. Those who never leave school, who go from college to teaching, seem to be far more liberal than those who have worked a "real world" job.
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Old 07-11-2016, 07:57 AM
 
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They get paid to get people to open their mind, explore possibilities and consider many points of view.
Actually, it's exactly the opposite. Disagree with the prof's world view, and your grade gets dinged.
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Old 07-11-2016, 08:04 AM
 
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I don't really see this as a concern. it's the nature of the profession.

I'm sure that most ppl who work on Wall St. vote GOP.
Actually, no. They donated heavily to Obama and have already warned Hillary to back off naming Warren as VP if she wants their donations and votes.

Wall Street cash or Elizabeth Warren: Hillary's choice
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Old 07-11-2016, 08:05 AM
 
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I don't really see this as a concern. it's the nature of the profession.

I'm sure that most ppl who work on Wall St. vote GOP.

nature of the profession.
The problem is when this becomes social engineering. Liberal professors have no qualms about impressing their personal beliefs and values as fact on their students. Conservative values and opinions are treated as regressive, antiquated or bigoted and standing up for yourself opens you up to ridicule and harsher grading by these professors.

Look no further than the protests and punishment for Conservatives that bring speakers with opposing views to campus, like Shapiro and Yiannpolous. The Liberals in charge don't want these opinions given any platform, so they do what they can to suppress it by letting protesters bar the doors to the venue, threaten the speakers and attendees, or by revoking Conservative student groups' rights to host any speakers on campus. Imagine how fast a Trump supporter would be removed if they stormed the stage of a Liberal speaker. But BLM protesters were allowed to completely disrupt a Milo speaking event and campus security did nothing to intervene.

Suppressing opposing views and discussion that these students may have never been previously exposed to is a form of intellectual dishonesty. Shouldn't colleges be the testing ground for differing thought, rather an echo chamber of only the opinions held by highly Liberal college professors and administrators?
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Old 07-11-2016, 08:07 AM
 
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You have taken my words out of context and have provided a response that does not correlate to what I said.
Then better explain yourself, because your post came off as saying that college profs were open to questioning, challenge, and debate. They simply aren't, and many have attested to that.
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Old 07-11-2016, 08:09 AM
 
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The problem is when this becomes social engineering. Liberal professors have no qualms about impressing their personal beliefs and values as fact on their students. Conservative values and opinions are treated as regressive, antiquated or bigoted and standing up for yourself opens you up to ridicule and harsher grading by these professors.

Look no further than the protests and punishment for Conservatives that bring speakers with opposing views to campus, like Shapiro and Yiannpolous. The Liberals in charge don't want these opinions given any platform, so they do what they can to suppress it by letting protesters bar the doors to the venue, threaten the speakers and attendees, or by revoking Conservative student groups' rights to host any speakers on campus. Imagine how fast a Trump supporter would be removed if they stormed the stage of a Liberal speaker. But BLM protesters were allowed to completely disrupt a Milo speaking event and campus security did nothing to intervene.

Suppressing opposing views and discussion that these students may have never been previously exposed to is a form of intellectual dishonesty. Shouldn't colleges be the testing ground for differing thought, rather an echo chamber of only the opinions held by highly Liberal college professors and administrators?
Exactly so.
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Old 07-11-2016, 08:14 AM
 
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Actually, no. They donated heavily to Obama and have already warned Hillary to back off naming Warren as VP if she wants their donations and votes.

Wall Street cash or Elizabeth Warren: Hillary's choice

the finance industry funds the GOP and conservative groups by a much wider margin than they do Dems.

Top contributors chart fro 2015-2016

Finance/Insurance/Real Estate | OpenSecrets

"The financial sector is far and away the largest source of campaign contributions to federal candidates and parties, with insurance companies, securities and investment firms, real estate interests and commercial banks providing the bulk of that money.

The sector contributed generous sums to both parties until 2010 when donations began to heavily bias Republicans, which likely reflects the finance industry's interest in overturning the financial regulations from the Dodd-Frank Act, implemented to protect consumers from predatory lending practices and risky financial decisions from the industry. In 2014, the industry as a whole contributed half a billion dollars to candidate and party committees, PACs as well as outside spending groups; 62 percent of the funds given to candidates and parties went to Republicans. In 2012, the giving was even higher (as is the trend with presidential cycles) at $687,000; nearly 70 percent of the candidate and party gifts went to the GOP."
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